Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Council 201006 elections
On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 07:46:40 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: On 02-06-2010 08:39, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 04:11:26 Torsten Veller wrote: * Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org: On Monday, May 31, 2010 22:46:50 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Here are the details for the Council 201006 elections: * nominations: June 5th to 18th * voting: June 20th to July 3rd funny, this isnt what the council page says at all | Nominations are allowed from July 1st UTC to July 31st 2359 UTC | Voting is opened from August 1st UTC to August 31st 2359 UTC | | (from http://council.gentoo.org) The dates shifted because a former council didn't made its full term due to the 50% attendance clause. The 'one year' is then reset from that point. [0] yes, that is fairly obvious, but my point was to highlight the existence of discrepancies rather than their background The length of the periods were shortened in 2008 [1] when we had the early election and last year's election was run within 2+2 weeks too. as that e-mail notes, the shortened period was due to the forced re-run and getting back on track quickly rather than making it the norm. personally i dont see what's wrong with running a full month considering the weight of the positions. ever since we started the 2 + 2 weeks elections, no one has complained to the election officials about the shortened period. conversely, no one complained about the longer period either Furthermore, the officials started tracking the ballots evolution and in the last 2 years or so, the majority of votes were casted in the first days of an election, followed by a week or so with hardly any votes and a small number of votes casted just before the election was closed. data does help a position As a member of the elections team and an election official for most (all?) of the elections in the past 3 years, I think that returning to the 1 + 1 month election would be a waste of time. still doesnt change the fact that the documentation on the website does not match what is occurring in practice -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-dev] Re: Council 201006 elections
* Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org: On Monday, May 31, 2010 22:46:50 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Here are the details for the Council 201006 elections: * nominations: June 5th to 18th * voting: June 20th to July 3rd funny, this isnt what the council page says at all | Nominations are allowed from July 1st UTC to July 31st 2359 UTC | Voting is opened from August 1st UTC to August 31st 2359 UTC | (from http://council.gentoo.org) The dates shifted because a former council didn't made its full term due to the 50% attendance clause. The 'one year' is then reset from that point. [0] The current council's term started in July 2009. So the next Council should start in July 2010. The length of the periods were shortened in 2008 [1] when we had the early election and last year's election was run within 2+2 weeks too. I think the council page should be fixed. Do you agree? [0] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0039.html [1] http://mid.gmane.org/4845954c.6070...@gentoo.org -- Regards Torsten
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Council 201006 elections
On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 04:11:26 Torsten Veller wrote: * Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org: On Monday, May 31, 2010 22:46:50 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Here are the details for the Council 201006 elections: * nominations: June 5th to 18th * voting: June 20th to July 3rd funny, this isnt what the council page says at all | Nominations are allowed from July 1st UTC to July 31st 2359 UTC | Voting is opened from August 1st UTC to August 31st 2359 UTC | | (from http://council.gentoo.org) The dates shifted because a former council didn't made its full term due to the 50% attendance clause. The 'one year' is then reset from that point. [0] yes, that is fairly obvious, but my point was to highlight the existence of discrepancies rather than their background The length of the periods were shortened in 2008 [1] when we had the early election and last year's election was run within 2+2 weeks too. as that e-mail notes, the shortened period was due to the forced re-run and getting back on track quickly rather than making it the norm. personally i dont see what's wrong with running a full month considering the weight of the positions. -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Council 201006 elections
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02-06-2010 08:39, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 04:11:26 Torsten Veller wrote: * Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org: On Monday, May 31, 2010 22:46:50 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Here are the details for the Council 201006 elections: * nominations: June 5th to 18th * voting: June 20th to July 3rd funny, this isnt what the council page says at all | Nominations are allowed from July 1st UTC to July 31st 2359 UTC | Voting is opened from August 1st UTC to August 31st 2359 UTC | | (from http://council.gentoo.org) The dates shifted because a former council didn't made its full term due to the 50% attendance clause. The 'one year' is then reset from that point. [0] yes, that is fairly obvious, but my point was to highlight the existence of discrepancies rather than their background The length of the periods were shortened in 2008 [1] when we had the early election and last year's election was run within 2+2 weeks too. as that e-mail notes, the shortened period was due to the forced re-run and getting back on track quickly rather than making it the norm. personally i dont see what's wrong with running a full month considering the weight of the positions. Mike, ever since we started the 2 + 2 weeks elections, no one has complained to the election officials about the shortened period. Furthermore, the officials started tracking the ballots evolution and in the last 2 years or so, the majority of votes were casted in the first days of an election, followed by a week or so with hardly any votes and a small number of votes casted just before the election was closed. As a member of the elections team and an election official for most (all?) of the elections in the past 3 years, I think that returning to the 1 + 1 month election would be a waste of time. -mike - -- Regards, Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMBkSgAAoJEC8ZTXQF1qEPWgAQAMvVsprQAWb85d+KhVPS3lE0 3WvJ+06eeOWbLln/6+9wjGp7Z2ta7+r6ZUbjJTMSj4A7wxRRb/00bbjqfEdetOwr KXwYP3I4+Cz6tQ3DzgOVCbTM41YSM0gsnsnmNWM8oPGI4wMg0+t2OiZxm2TM510/ QDinuLqlE86g+ImAGAK+lUgAtSWd/AIYf3klziVwJSHmDYkW1YlLzA441IWIxHGd nB1Ui9Lk7g3IRVPrCVZ3UkdPGGO0SvndRrEIC35lIF61qhIHNiYgldcRz+oBEm7a mgdPi6svXn8H5o/mwhCw4nk/SH6MbmaAMOfokAcDQTyeZwtLYMqzHQvzQoWnZ81/ 8Db5IYinfVf15MPX14p0FGW5D1sss0aIPXCMyE533rC+VA0kM4o83HexQqMI5TBa crKGT91w0/gR1WptvjPKFjG1g1gyniw7NbT7rDg4/c/lyYLgC1NsjBDQd6koP9lf 8qkSAtuYYDnIcnVUCtXWPruassG96IUC0oqIb/WCX3Vpy/dx5CFmzgjj1Vs2xbY9 EyMmyUU4VYI9LUyQVcYD4ouECS5HcmbBt1eCrvsQZTn5gv6hB2nt7ofSRoah0Bka eiimKmuZnTkM7n6gn/DFoPVac+i8AdEbhxDpWYF0uRMz0c0YXYqW20jTFv/p1WX4 6MbQ/5rYBLfqHin7+Z6+ =Tx1l -END PGP SIGNATURE-
