Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-18 Thread likewhoa
Your suggestions are ideal and don't get to personal, thanks for the
feedback and corrections.


On Jan 18, 2008 8:54 PM, Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> likewhoa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
> below, on  Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:20:08 -0500:
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> > one question regarding children that I see as being appropriate is:
> >
> > Do children in your household use Gentoo?
> >> Yes
> >> No
> >> It's to complicated for them
> >> Prefer not to answer
>
> s/children/others/, thus including spouses, kids, parents, housemates,
> etc.  That's not so personal and more useful an answer IMO.
>
> But more useful without getting quite so personal in relationship
> implication:
>
> How many others in your household use Gentoo?
> > 0
> > 1-2
> > 3+
> > Prefer not to answer
>
> What ages are they (mark all that apply)?
> > 0-10
> > 11-18
> > 19-30
> > 30-50
> > 51+
> > None or prefer not to answer
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-17 Thread Joe Peterson
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:56:36AM +, Steve Long wrote:
> Ryan Hill wrote:
>> I agree, though year of birth might be interesting.  Income and children
>> are a bit too private.
>>
> ++ in general although I do think parenthood (if responsible) is as relevant
> as age. A 28 year old with a 5 year old kid has a lot to show a 35 year old
> doctoral student with no kids, even if it's not all technical. # of kids
> isn't relevant.

Judging the maturity of users (or devs) by how many children they have
(or indeed *if* they have children) is pretty questionable.  I know
people who have kids and are pretty irresponsible (that's not to say
most are, but one does not guarantee the other).  And I'd argue that
someone with children does not necessarily have "a lot to show" someone
without kids, unless it is the specific experience of childrearing.

There are many people (myself and my wife included) who choose
consciously not to have children.  It is becoming more and more a
*choice* people can legitimately make rather than just an assumed part
of life.  It is not selfish or immature, as some people think, so I'd be
careful about implying that such a question gauges maturity.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:56:36AM +, Steve Long wrote:
> Ryan Hill wrote:
> > I agree, though year of birth might be interesting.  Income and children
> > are a bit too private.
> > 
> ++ in general although I do think parenthood (if responsible) is as relevant
> as age. A 28 year old with a 5 year old kid has a lot to show a 35 year old
> doctoral student with no kids, even if it's not all technical. # of kids
> isn't relevant.
I put # of kids in there as a lark, perhaps it might be better as 'do
you have children', with an eye to seeing how it affects their package
choices - see games and education packages for kids, plus the previous
USE=offensive debate on the desktop backgrounds with scantily-clad
woman.

> Maybe it's not something you want to ask the users, but it would be more
> interesting wrt devs, as would statistics on standard Equal Ops monitoring
> (a legal requirement on employers in the UK, even if the person declines to
> answer, which is ofc their right.)
Go some good links on that? They might have good question wording we can
borrow?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread likewhoa
yea I didn't mean to send HTML but i agree on the "once or more" suggestion
:)
thanks,

Fernando


On Jan 15, 2008 12:05 AM, Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> likewhoa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
> below, on  Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:53:38 +:
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> > How often do you update your system & world packages?
> >> every day
> >> once a week
> >> once a month
> >> every six months
> >> none of the above
>
> Make these time based ones "once or more", so there's no holes between
> the ranges (altho they'll technically overlap).  Otherwise, those of us
> doing system upkeep 2-3 times a  will have a hard time trying to
> figure out what to mark. =8^)
>
> (BTW, agree with the no HTML thing already mentioned...)
>
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