Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:32:22 + Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Portage 2.2 and others support sets, portage 2.2 even supports > dynamic sets like the "@preserved-rebuild". Shouldn't be that hard to > add a "live-ebuilds" dynamic set. > (Comments on the feasibility of my idea from po

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Patrick Lauer schrieb: On Saturday 14 June 2008 14:11:12 Bernd Steinhauser wrote: That's what metadata is there for. And ebuilds don't mind carrying a bit more ... after all it's just one line of text. So, what you want to do is to read every ebuild, if you want to find all live ebuilds? Meta

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Patrick Lauer schrieb: On Saturday 14 June 2008 14:11:12 Bernd Steinhauser wrote: That's what metadata is there for. And ebuilds don't mind carrying a bit more ... after all it's just one line of text. So, what you want to do is to read every ebuild, if you want to find all live ebuilds? Meta

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Saturday 14 June 2008 14:11:12 Bernd Steinhauser wrote: > > That's what metadata is there for. And ebuilds don't mind carrying a bit > > more ... after all it's just one line of text. > > So, what you want to do is to read every ebuild, if you want to find all > live ebuilds? Metadata cache. It

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Patrick Lauer schrieb: On Saturday 14 June 2008 11:53:51 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: What's the need for a GLEP covering "live" ebuilds and what's wrong with - ebuilds? I made myself that question when GLEP54 was submitted and during the initial discussion. At that time, I wasn't convi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Luca Barbato
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Those using paludis need just to run[1]: ~ paludis -pi1 compiz-fusion --dl-reinstall-scm always --compact \ ~--show-reasons none and what about # emerge @compiz [1] Simpler isn't it? Or # emaint -r world[2] # emerge -u compiz-fusion [1] you you can do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Saturday 14 June 2008 11:53:51 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > What's the need for a GLEP covering "live" ebuilds and what's wrong with > - ebuilds? I made myself that question when GLEP54 was submitted and > during the initial discussion. At that time, I wasn't convinced of the > need f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What's the need for a GLEP covering "live" ebuilds and what's wrong with - - ebuilds? I made myself that question when GLEP54 was submitted and during the initial discussion. At that time, I wasn't convinced of the need for such a GLEP. Now I thin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-13 Thread Luca Barbato
Tiziano Müller wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: Tiziano Müller wrote: @lu_zero: I don't think we can get away without having the pm know what a live-ebuild exactly is and when to re-install it. a live ebuild is a template, every time it has to be evaluated it acts as a normal ebuild with the versio

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-13 Thread Tiziano Müller
Luca Barbato wrote: > Tiziano Müller wrote: >> @lu_zero: I don't think we can get away without having the pm know what a >> live-ebuild exactly is and when to re-install it. > > a live ebuild is a template, every time it has to be evaluated it acts > as a normal ebuild with the version mentioned

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Peter Weller
[..snip..] This doesn't, to me, really seem to be relevant to the original purpose of the thread. Can we either start a new thread or get this one back on topic? welp -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
> That's true, it has at least to be aware the there's an EAPI. > But how does such a package manager handle .ebuild-0 files? Ignore them? > Failing because of unknown files in a package-dir? > Should we care about package managers not being aware of the existence of > EAPI's? Current portage woul

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:27:56 +0200 Tiziano Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > No point. A 0 package manager still couldn't use a 0.1 ebuild. > > > That's true, it has at least to be aware the there's an EAPI. > But how does such a package manager handle .ebuild-0 files?

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Tiziano Müller
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:45:37 +0200 > Tiziano Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And why don't we change the versioning of the EAPI to a "X.Y" scheme >> and demand that changes in the minor version must not break sourcing >> of the ebuild with older package managers and t