Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: app-portage/genlop: 9 open bugs, dead upstream
I've spoken with upstream - they are still maintaining genlop, but the hosting server that the website and files are on is currently without connectivity. Your homepages and such should be up soon, and perhaps a bump as well. pgpOJpupj3zDJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: app-portage/genlop: 9 open bugs, dead upstream
Well, this is the problem. I like it too, and I too don't like the current stituation. Currently genlop is abandonware. There is no activity in Bugzilla, so that's why I post to gentoo-dev. Portage Utilities Team, Hello ? If we all like it that much, perhaps someone will want to take over it, make a homepage ( or just set www.gentoo.org as the homepage ) and go through the open bugs. If not - it can be either dropped or left as it is currently. If no one cares maybe the user base is not that large. In either case, it would be interesting to know what is the Portage Utilities Team view on the matter. On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 20:56 -0600, R Hill wrote: Christian Parpart wrote: On Sunday 24 July 2005 20:29, Ivan Yosifov wrote: What's up with genlop ? There are 9 open bugs, some including trivial fixes ( like #97049 ), the homepage http://pollycoke.org/genlop.html ( as listed in the ebuild ) is dead. If my understanding is correct, unmaintained packages are removed from the tree. finally, genlop still has a user base (including me). So I wouldn't dare in dropping it. genlop is far too useful a package to drop from the tree. besides the important statistical data it provides, it makes a great benchmarking tool and i use it for gcc testing a lot. --de. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Re: app-portage/genlop: 9 open bugs, dead upstream
25.7.2005, 10:41:09, Ivan Yosifov wrote: If we all like it that much, perhaps someone will want to take over it, make a homepage ( or just set www.gentoo.org as the homepage ) and go through the open bugs. If not - it can be either dropped or left as it is currently. If no one cares maybe the user base is not that large. I don't know why this ebuild should be dropped, I have much better candidates for removal - such as y-windows ;p All the bugs are trivial and half of them is solved in 0.30.3 which could be marked stable. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) pgpZuP5xIFCk6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: app-portage/genlop: 9 open bugs, dead upstream
As the original handler of genlop (it was assigned to perl herd when it first was asked to be added, since its written in perl) I strongly vote against dropping the package (ok, I didn't even realize it had been switched over to the portage-tools group for maintenance, and as such that there were even bugs open against it). The funny thing about no more activity upstream is this: why would there be? Except for bug fixes, it does a simple job, and it does it damned well: it parses your emerge log and gives you just the output you want and need. Don't abandon a tool just because it has reached its final state ;) pgp7WOOtZu5bO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: app-portage/genlop: 9 open bugs, dead upstream
Michael Cummings wrote: As the original handler of genlop (it was assigned to perl herd when it first was asked to be added, since its written in perl) I strongly vote against dropping the package (ok, I didn't even realize it had been switched over to the portage-tools group for maintenance, and as such that there were even bugs open against it). The funny thing about no more activity upstream is this: why would there be? Except for bug fixes, it does a simple job, and it does it damned well: it parses your emerge log and gives you just the output you want and need. Don't abandon a tool just because it has reached its final state ;) Well, a homepage would be a nice thing to have. I also think that is a very useful tool. If no one will step forward, I will take its maintainership. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: app-portage/genlop: 9 open bugs, dead upstream
Thanks, Alin. This was the type of constructive response I was hoping to provoke. Don't get me wrong - I like genlop, however software final state does not exist IMO, and bugfixing is hugely important with any software. Also, by dead upstream I mean that the page does not even exist anymore, not just that there is no activity. On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 12:33 +0300, Alin Nastac wrote: Michael Cummings wrote: As the original handler of genlop (it was assigned to perl herd when it first was asked to be added, since its written in perl) I strongly vote against dropping the package (ok, I didn't even realize it had been switched over to the portage-tools group for maintenance, and as such that there were even bugs open against it). The funny thing about no more activity upstream is this: why would there be? Except for bug fixes, it does a simple job, and it does it damned well: it parses your emerge log and gives you just the output you want and need. Don't abandon a tool just because it has reached its final state ;) Well, a homepage would be a nice thing to have. I also think that is a very useful tool. If no one will step forward, I will take its maintainership. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: app-portage/genlop: 9 open bugs, dead upstream
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:45:29 +0300 Ivan Yosifov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Alin. This was the type of constructive response I was hoping to provoke. Don't get me wrong - I like genlop, however software final state does not exist IMO, and bugfixing is hugely important with any software. Also, by dead upstream I mean that the page does not even exist anymore, not just that there is no activity. If no one objects, I'll attempt to contact upstream on the status, and whether the author also considers this 'dead'. Depending on the answer, I'd be willing to assume work on it (most likely with a name change so as to avoid infringements, etc.). Soon as I get some mod_perl stuff sorted, I'll take a look at the bugs that are open. Anyone on portage-tools object to the intervention? pgpicUjqIAsIJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: app-portage/genlop: 9 open bugs, dead upstream
Michael Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The funny thing about no more activity upstream is this: why would there be? Except for bug fixes, it does a simple job, and it does it damned well: it parses your emerge log and gives you just the output you want and need. Don't abandon a tool just because it has reached its final state ;) Except that at the moment it does not do it well as it does not work with the '-c' option - as reported in bug 99823 -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: app-portage/genlop: 9 open bugs, dead upstream
On Monday 25 July 2005 09:28 am, Graham Murray wrote: Michael Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The funny thing about no more activity upstream is this: why would there be? Except for bug fixes, it does a simple job, and it does it damned well: it parses your emerge log and gives you just the output you want and need. Don't abandon a tool just because it has reached its final state ;) Except that at the moment it does not do it well as it does not work with the '-c' option - as reported in bug 99823 one broken option doesnt mean we should punt it :P -t and -l still work pretty well -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-dev] Re: app-portage/genlop: 9 open bugs, dead upstream
Christian Parpart wrote: On Sunday 24 July 2005 20:29, Ivan Yosifov wrote: What's up with genlop ? There are 9 open bugs, some including trivial fixes ( like #97049 ), the homepage http://pollycoke.org/genlop.html ( as listed in the ebuild ) is dead. If my understanding is correct, unmaintained packages are removed from the tree. finally, genlop still has a user base (including me). So I wouldn't dare in dropping it. genlop is far too useful a package to drop from the tree. besides the important statistical data it provides, it makes a great benchmarking tool and i use it for gcc testing a lot. --de. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
