Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-17 Thread Curtis Napier
Volkov Peter wrote: > Hello. > > IMO the very important element of gentoo user relations that is absent > at w.g.o is search field! Gentoo does not have good searching point. > > Each time I encounter bug/problem before asking for help if I'm a good > boy I have to search for solution in differen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-17 Thread Volkov Peter
Hello. IMO the very important element of gentoo user relations that is absent at w.g.o is search field! Gentoo does not have good searching point. Each time I encounter bug/problem before asking for help if I'm a good boy I have to search for solution in different places: forums, mailing lis

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-08 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Sat, 2006-04-08 at 14:07 -0500, lnxg33k wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > * If we're looking to increase the flow of end users -> super users -> > > developers, perhaps we should focus more upon improving development > > tools or development documentation. > > I'm a little late jumping int

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-08 Thread lnxg33k
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: I would also suggest creation of a gentoo-dev-help@ mailing-list. Something similar to what, i guess, the homonym IRC chan is, but for people who don't like IRC. I like this idea as well and agree with the reasoning snip'ed out. As for other mail about -user,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-08 Thread lnxg33k
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: * If we're looking to increase the flow of end users -> super users -> developers, perhaps we should focus more upon improving development tools or development documentation. I'm a little late jumping into this and I haven't read all the threads yet, however I agree wit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-08 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Friday 07 April 2006 17:47, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: > What Alec said, however, this would require that we have interested > developers who would subscribe and be active when they can, to avoid it > becoming another -user. > > But yes, I like that idea too! Thank you. Actually -user used to h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:48:12 -0400, Michael Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 07 April 2006 11:15, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:21:54 +0100, > > > > I would also suggest creation of a gentoo-dev-help@ mailing-list. > > isn't that what the gentoo mailin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Alexandre Buisse
On Fri, Apr 7, 2006 at 18:07:14 +0200, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: > What Alec said, however, this would require that we have interested > developers who would subscribe and be active when they can, to avoid it > becoming another -user. Well, even if it's a small percentage of the devs, #gentoo-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Michael Cummings
On Friday 07 April 2006 11:15, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:21:54 +0100, > > I would also suggest creation of a gentoo-dev-help@ mailing-list. Not to be a wet blanket (I'm all for making current users happier and encouraging new folks to take the bold step) but isn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 11:42 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:21:54 +0100, > > Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>* If we're looking to increase the flow of end users -> super users -> > >>developers, perhaps we should foc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Alec Warner
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:21:54 +0100, > Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>* If we're looking to increase the flow of end users -> super users -> >>developers, perhaps we should focus more upon improving development >>tools or development documentat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:21:54 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * If we're looking to increase the flow of end users -> super users -> > developers, perhaps we should focus more upon improving development > tools or development documentation. I would also suggest creation of a gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 07:32 -0400, Thomas Cort wrote: > Perhaps we should have a page explaining all of the ways someone can > help / contribute to Gentoo. There is no central place (that I know of) > for finding out what you can do as a user to make your favorite > distribution become even bett

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 10:21 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 03:30:10 +0100 Christel Dahlskjaer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | What do you believe could make Gentoo more attractive > | to new users and to current users? > > Something that's often missed in these discussions...

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Thomas Cort
Perhaps we should have a page explaining all of the ways someone can help / contribute to Gentoo. There is no central place (that I know of) for finding out what you can do as a user to make your favorite distribution become even better. The Free Software Foundation has a nice page here: http:/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 03:30:10 +0100 Christel Dahlskjaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | What do you believe could make Gentoo more attractive | to new users and to current users? Something that's often missed in these discussions... The only serious interaction between Gentoo and nearly all of our end

[gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-06 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
Hi everyone, First, allow me to thank every last one of you for the great welcome you gave me when I joined. It is an immeasurably great and exciting challenge to take over as lead of the user relations[1] project and I am very thankful to Seemant and devrel for the confidence they have shown in