Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-03-14 Thread Torokhov Sergey
Yes, it seems they use that approach as the binary repos are called "grp".At the same time they provide binary builds for set of packages not only on release but as rolling too. They repository is available as Gentoo Calculate Overlay but I never tries to add it and use so I don't know how it

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-03-13 Thread Frédéric Pierret
Le 2/10/21 à 9:04 PM, Frédéric Pierret a écrit : Le 2/10/21 à 6:57 PM, Andreas K. Hüttel a écrit : Hi all, I'm announcing a new project here - "binhost" "The Gentoo Binhost project aims to provide readily installable, precompiled packages for a subset of configurations, via central binary

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-03-13 Thread Wolfgang E. Sanyer
I'm unable to add myself to the wiki, as i am not a real dev (yet!) but i am definitely interested in being a part of this team and contributing to the discussions. El sáb., 13 de marzo de 2021 5:48 a. m., Marco Scardovi escribió: > Hi there, > > Well, actually you could take a look on GRP

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-03-13 Thread Marco Scardovi
Hi there, Well, actually you could take a look on GRP project as, if I understand, was similar to what you would like to do: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_Linux#Gentoo_Reference_Platform Unfortunately this project was closed on 2011, so lots of things are changed, but could be a good

[gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-03-13 Thread Torokhov Sergey
Maybe the expirience of Calculate Linux will be usefull. It's Gentoo based distributive that use portage/emerge and have huge set of prebuild packages in *.xpack format.https://wiki.calculate-linux.org/calculate_vs_gentoo10.02.2021, 20:58, "Andreas K. Hüttel" :Hi all, I'm

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-24 Thread Zac Medico
On 2/24/21 2:29 AM, Zac Medico wrote: > For example, for 3 USE flags, up to 8 combinations will be indexed: > > IUSE="a b c installsources splitdebug" > SRC_URI=" > !a? !b? !c? ( mirror://binhost/24fe6bd377 ) > !a? !b? c? ( mirror://binhost/fbe14cbb02 ) > !a? b? !c? (

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-24 Thread Zac Medico
On 2/23/21 12:33 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 2/23/21 12:05 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 2/23/21 11:46 AM, Zac Medico wrote: >>> On 2/20/21 8:17 PM, Zac Medico wrote: IUSE_RUNTIME will obviously introduce conditionals in binary package dependencies, but we should welcome these conditionals

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-23 Thread Zac Medico
On 2/23/21 12:05 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 2/23/21 11:46 AM, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 2/20/21 8:17 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >>> IUSE_RUNTIME will obviously introduce conditionals in binary package >>> dependencies, but we should welcome these conditionals because they will >>> provide useful

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-23 Thread Zac Medico
On 2/23/21 11:46 AM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 2/20/21 8:17 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 2/13/21 4:53 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >>> On 2/13/21 4:37 PM, Zac Medico wrote: On 2/11/21 1:17 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 2021-02-10 at 19:51 +0100, Lars Wendler wrote: >> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-23 Thread Zac Medico
On 2/13/21 5:51 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 2/10/21 11:11 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 12:57 PM Andreas K. Hüttel >> wrote: >>> >>> * what portage features are still needed or need improvements (e.g. binpkg >>> signing and verification) >>> * how should hosting look like >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-23 Thread Zac Medico
On 2/20/21 8:17 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 2/13/21 4:53 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 2/13/21 4:37 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >>> On 2/11/21 1:17 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 2021-02-10 at 19:51 +0100, Lars Wendler wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 19:57:48 +0200 Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-21 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Replying to a random post here- I'm sorry, briefly after I started this thread real life got in the way and a lot of other things became more urgent. As soon as I have time (next weekend?) I'll reply to the many e-mails here. Thanks -A -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-20 Thread Zac Medico
On 2/13/21 4:53 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 2/13/21 4:37 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 2/11/21 1:17 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Wed, 2021-02-10 at 19:51 +0100, Lars Wendler wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 19:57:48 +0200 Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm announcing a new

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-15 Thread Jaco Kroon
Hi, > Binpkg performance is acceptable albeit not blazing fast for machines > with 500-800 packages (usually server) while for desktops which easily > have 2000 packages the time to update can be hours. I take from this that the binpkg process really should be optimized somehow.  Without looking

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-15 Thread Francesco Riosa
Il giorno mer 10 feb 2021 alle ore 19:51 Lars Wendler < polynomia...@gentoo.org> ha scritto: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 19:57:48 +0200 Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > >I'm announcing a new project here - "binhost" > > > >"The Gentoo Binhost project aims to provide readily installable, >

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-15 Thread Francesco Riosa
Il giorno mer 10 feb 2021 alle ore 20:15 Andreas K. Hüttel < dilfri...@gentoo.org> ha scritto: > > Some ideas for portage enhancements: > > > > 1. Ability to fetch binary packages from some kind of repo. > > 2. Ability to have multiple binary packages co-exist in a repo (local > > or remote)

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 8:51 PM Zac Medico wrote: > > > 2. Generate a hash of the file contents - this can go in the filename > > so that the file can co-exist with other files, and be located > > assuming you have a full matching set of metadata. > > For FEATURES=binpkg-multi-instance we

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-13 Thread Zac Medico
On 2/10/21 11:11 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 12:57 PM Andreas K. Hüttel > wrote: >> >> * what portage features are still needed or need improvements (e.g. binpkg >> signing and verification) >> * how should hosting look like > > Some ideas for portage enhancements: > > 1.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-13 Thread Zac Medico
On 2/13/21 4:37 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 2/11/21 1:17 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >> On Wed, 2021-02-10 at 19:51 +0100, Lars Wendler wrote: >>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 19:57:48 +0200 Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: >>> Hi all, I'm announcing a new project here - "binhost" "The Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-13 Thread Zac Medico
On 2/11/21 1:17 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 2021-02-10 at 19:51 +0100, Lars Wendler wrote: >> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 19:57:48 +0200 Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm announcing a new project here - "binhost" >>> >>> "The Gentoo Binhost project aims to provide readily

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-13 Thread Zac Medico
On 2/10/21 10:51 AM, Lars Wendler wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 19:57:48 +0200 Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm announcing a new project here - "binhost" >> >> "The Gentoo Binhost project aims to provide readily installable, >> precompiled packages for a subset of configurations,

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-13 Thread m1027
dilfridge: > Hi all, > > I'm announcing a new project here - "binhost" > > "The Gentoo Binhost project aims to provide readily installable, precompiled > packages for a subset of configurations, via central binary package hosting. > Currently we are still in the conceptual planning stage. "

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-13 Thread Michael Jones
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:58 AM Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm announcing a new project here - "binhost" > > "The Gentoo Binhost project aims to provide readily installable, > precompiled > packages for a subset of configurations, via central binary package > hosting. > Currently we

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-13 Thread Aisha Tammy
Maybe as starter, if some people have any public binhosts available, some volunteers can try using those to build a (test) system to check how it fares? I have two public binhosts available (with very limited set of packages and very specific CPUs and very weak servers, so please don't crash

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-12 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
* Andreas K. Hüttel schrieb am 10.02.21 um 12:57 Uhr: > Hi all, > > I'm announcing a new project here - "binhost" > > "The Gentoo Binhost project aims to provide readily installable, precompiled > packages for a subset of configurations, via central binary package hosting. > Currently we are

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-11 Thread Andrew Ammerlaan
On 10/02/2021 18:57, Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: Hi all, I'm announcing a new project here - "binhost" "The Gentoo Binhost project aims to provide readily installable, precompiled packages for a subset of configurations, via central binary package hosting. Currently we are still in the conceptual

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-11 Thread Jaco Kroon
Hi, +1 - love the idea, def joining. However, I suspect the op was aiming at a publicly hosted binpkg server.  Given the below it becomes one server/host, we care only about the build parameters, and I suspect profile then has less of an effect on the built packages. For publicly *available*

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-11 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 2021-02-10 at 19:51 +0100, Lars Wendler wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 19:57:48 +0200 Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm announcing a new project here - "binhost" > > > > "The Gentoo Binhost project aims to provide readily installable, > > precompiled packages for a

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-10 Thread Alexey Sokolov
ср, 10 февр. 2021 г. в 19:12, Rich Freeman : > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 12:57 PM Andreas K. Hüttel > wrote: > > > > * what portage features are still needed or need improvements (e.g. binpkg > > signing and verification) > > * how should hosting look like > > Some ideas for portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-10 Thread Aisha Tammy
On 2/10/21 2:11 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 12:57 PM Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: * what portage features are still needed or need improvements (e.g. binpkg signing and verification) * how should hosting look like Some ideas for portage enhancements: 1. Ability to fetch

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-10 Thread Aisha Tammy
On 2/10/21 12:57 PM, Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: Hi all, I'm announcing a new project here - "binhost" "The Gentoo Binhost project aims to provide readily installable, precompiled packages for a subset of configurations, via central binary package hosting. Currently we are still in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-10 Thread Toralf Förster
On 2/10/21 6:57 PM, Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: Comments, ideas, flamebaits? :D I'd appreciate bin packages from a user perspective too. With -j1 I do have compile times of about 1 day and more for few packages. But the topic "repoducible builds" is lurking around the corner! -- Toralf PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-10 Thread Frédéric Pierret
Le 2/10/21 à 6:57 PM, Andreas K. Hüttel a écrit : Hi all, I'm announcing a new project here - "binhost" "The Gentoo Binhost project aims to provide readily installable, precompiled packages for a subset of configurations, via central binary package hosting. Currently we are still in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-10 Thread Andreas K . Hüttel
> Some ideas for portage enhancements: > > 1. Ability to fetch binary packages from some kind of repo. > 2. Ability to have multiple binary packages co-exist in a repo (local > or remote) with different build attributes (arch, USE, CFLAGS, > DEPENDS, whatever). > 3. Ability to pick the most

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 12:57 PM Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: > > * what portage features are still needed or need improvements (e.g. binpkg > signing and verification) > * how should hosting look like Some ideas for portage enhancements: 1. Ability to fetch binary packages from some kind of repo.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-10 Thread Lars Wendler
On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 19:57:48 +0200 Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm announcing a new project here - "binhost" > >"The Gentoo Binhost project aims to provide readily installable, >precompiled packages for a subset of configurations, via central >binary package hosting. Currently we are

[gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-10 Thread Andreas K . Hüttel
Hi all, I'm announcing a new project here - "binhost" "The Gentoo Binhost project aims to provide readily installable, precompiled packages for a subset of configurations, via central binary package hosting. Currently we are still in the conceptual planning stage. "