Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC supporting systemd units

2013-05-09 Thread Peter Stuge
Michael Mol wrote: > obviously you have an interesting position as a dev in a distribution, > and you might make your change there, but that certainly shouldn't be > your default course of action. +1 and not just for unit files. //Peter pgpQGx9XaD1PC.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC supporting systemd units

2013-05-08 Thread Michael Mol
On 05/08/2013 04:06 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Michael Mol schrieb: >>> Sounds like a great feature. A crashed process is a buggy one, and I >>> would want to investigate said program before I relaunched it, and >>> not have it automatically relaunched as if nothing had happened. >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC supporting systemd units

2013-05-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > You could be looking at someone trying to compromise your system through a > buffer overflow or similar vulnerability. If you enable automatic respawn > then congratulations, you just gave the attacker unlimited tries to guess >

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC supporting systemd units

2013-05-08 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Michael Mol schrieb: >> Sounds like a great feature. A crashed process is a buggy one, and I >> would want to investigate said program before I relaunched it, and >> not have it automatically relaunched as if nothing had happened. > > That's highly, highly, highly use-case dependent. If it's a >

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC supporting systemd units

2013-05-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Ambroz Bizjak wrote: >> Init.d scripts are programs - they could probably do just about anything. > > They couldn't monitor a process and restart it when it crashes, as > specified by the restart options in the unit file. That is, without > significant modifications

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC supporting systemd units

2013-05-08 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Jeroen Roovers schrieb: > Sounds like a great feature. A crashed process is a buggy one, and I > would want to investigate said program before I relaunched it, and not > have it automatically relaunched as if nothing had happened. Even worse if it keeps on thinking that the process has crashed whe

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC supporting systemd units

2013-05-08 Thread Michael Mol
On 05/08/2013 03:18 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Wed, 8 May 2013 20:55:35 +0200 > Ambroz Bizjak wrote: > >>> Init.d scripts are programs - they could probably do just about >>> anything. >> >> They couldn't monitor a process and restart it when it crashes, as >> specified by the restart options

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC supporting systemd units

2013-05-08 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 8 May 2013 13:32:01 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 07:07:17PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > > It is quite likely that OpenRC will start supporting unit files soon. > > Then in many cases we will be able to strip down this to just one init > > format which would satisf

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC supporting systemd units

2013-05-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 8 May 2013 20:55:35 +0200 Ambroz Bizjak wrote: > > Init.d scripts are programs - they could probably do just about > > anything. > > They couldn't monitor a process and restart it when it crashes, as > specified by the restart options in the unit file. That is, without > significant modi

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC supporting systemd units

2013-05-08 Thread Ambroz Bizjak
> Init.d scripts are programs - they could probably do just about anything. They couldn't monitor a process and restart it when it crashes, as specified by the restart options in the unit file. That is, without significant modifications in the way OpenRC works, such as adding a monitoring process,

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC supporting systemd units

2013-05-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:32 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > OpenRC can't support units directly; if this ever did happen it would > have to be a tool that converts units to init scripts. Or an init script skeleton that interprets a unit file. That seems like it shouldn't be too hard to write for a

[gentoo-dev] OpenRC supporting systemd units

2013-05-08 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 07:07:17PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > It is quite likely that OpenRC will start supporting unit files soon. > Then in many cases we will be able to strip down this to just one init > format which would satisfy both init systems. Do you want to fill me in? ;-) I haven't se