Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages broken by phase ordering change

2008-06-18 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 15:09 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:55:29 +0200
 Santiago M. Mola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  As discussed in bug #222721, portage has changed the execution order
  of phases. It seems the change was introduced in portage-2.1.5 and it
  makes that, when upgrading a package, pkg_postinst is run after the
  old version has been removed. This breaks packages which use
  has_version in pkg_postinst to detect upgrades/downgrades. It can also
  break packages in more subtle ways.
 
 Given that the number of affected ebuilds is so high, I'd say Portage
 should have to revert the changes...

Of course, you would.  What else would we expect from you?

 This is an EAPI scope change, if anything. Although even then the
 implications are a bit messy since you're talking the interaction of
 two different EAPIs.

It seems that everything these days is an EAPI scope change.  That's not
very useful for Gentoo, considering it's been quite some time since PMS
was proposed and we've not seen approval for either EAPI=0 or EAPI=1 (or
PMS, for that matter).  What we have gotten is a half-assed you can use
EAPI=1 in the tree to get these enumerated features from the Council,
but that's nothing like acceptance of a spec.  Perhaps if you spent a
little more time doing something more constructive than being an asshat
on the lists, PMS would have been approved long ago.  Of course, that
doesn't mesh well with your apparent need to be a complete dick to
people, so continue on with the status quo.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages broken by phase ordering change

2008-06-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:21:24 -0700
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It seems that everything these days is an EAPI scope change.  That's
 not very useful for Gentoo, considering it's been quite some time
 since PMS was proposed and we've not seen approval for either EAPI=0
 or EAPI=1 (or PMS, for that matter).  What we have gotten is a
 half-assed you can use EAPI=1 in the tree to get these enumerated
 features from the Council, but that's nothing like acceptance of a
 spec.  Perhaps if you spent a little more time doing something more
 constructive than being an asshat on the lists, PMS would have been
 approved long ago.  Of course, that doesn't mesh well with your
 apparent need to be a complete dick to people, so continue on with
 the status quo.

+1


Kind regards,
 JeR
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages broken by phase ordering change

2008-06-18 Thread David Leverton
On Thursday 19 June 2008 02:21:24 Chris Gianelloni wrote:
 It seems that everything these days is an EAPI scope change.

Everything change that has the potential to break existing packages, or to 
make new packages incompatible with existing package managers, is an EAPI 
scope change.  That is the very purpose of EAPI.

 Perhaps if you spent a little more time doing something more constructive
 than being an asshat on the lists, PMS would have been approved long ago.
 Of course, that doesn't mesh well with your apparent need to be a complete
 dick to people, so continue on with the status quo.

This thread was entirely technical until now.  Are such attacks really 
necessary?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages broken by phase ordering change

2008-06-15 Thread Matthias Schwarzott
On Freitag, 13. Juni 2008, Santiago M. Mola wrote:
 Hi all,

 As discussed in bug #222721, portage has changed the execution order
 of phases. It seems the change was introduced in portage-2.1.5 and it
 makes that, when upgrading a package, pkg_postinst is run after the
 old version has been removed. This breaks packages which use
 has_version in pkg_postinst to detect upgrades/downgrades. It can also
 break packages in more subtle ways.


So someone that has access permissions here: Please do fix the devmanual 
http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/functions/pkg_postinst/index.html


It now states:

Common pkg_postinst Tasks
 The most common use for pkg_postinst is to display post-install informational 
messages or warnings. Note that has_version will operate on the version that 
was installed, which can be useful for selective upgrade messages.

Regards
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages broken by phase ordering change

2008-06-15 Thread Santiago M. Mola
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Matthias Schwarzott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Freitag, 13. Juni 2008, Santiago M. Mola wrote:
 Hi all,

 As discussed in bug #222721, portage has changed the execution order
 of phases. It seems the change was introduced in portage-2.1.5 and it
 makes that, when upgrading a package, pkg_postinst is run after the
 old version has been removed. This breaks packages which use
 has_version in pkg_postinst to detect upgrades/downgrades. It can also
 break packages in more subtle ways.


 So someone that has access permissions here: Please do fix the devmanual
 http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/functions/pkg_postinst/index.html


https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226419

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[gentoo-dev] Packages broken by phase ordering change

2008-06-13 Thread Santiago M. Mola
Hi all,

As discussed in bug #222721, portage has changed the execution order
of phases. It seems the change was introduced in portage-2.1.5 and it
makes that, when upgrading a package, pkg_postinst is run after the
old version has been removed. This breaks packages which use
has_version in pkg_postinst to detect upgrades/downgrades. It can also
break packages in more subtle ways.

The following ebuilds are affected by has_version problem. There may
be some affected ebuilds missing, and also ebuilds broken in a
different way.

app-pda/libopensync-0.22
app-portage/conf-update-1.0
dev-libs/libotf-0.9.4
dev-libs/libotf-0.9.5
dev-libs/libotf-0.9.6
dev-libs/libotf-0.9.7
dev-util/scons-0.97
dev-util/scons-0.98.3
dev-util/scons-0.98.4
mail-filter/dspam-3.8.0-r11
media-gfx/splashutils-1.5.2.1
media-gfx/splashutils-1.5.3.4
media-gfx/splashutils-1.5.4
media-gfx/splashutils-1.5.4.1
media-gfx/splashutils-1.5.4-r1
media-libs/libdvbpsi-0.1.5
media-libs/libdvbpsi-0.1.6
media-libs/libexif-0.6.16
media-libs/libexif-0.6.16-r1
media-libs/pdflib-7.0.2
media-libs/pdflib-7.0.2_p8
media-plugins/vdr-epgsearch-0.9.19
media-plugins/vdr-epgsearch-0.9.20
media-plugins/vdr-epgsearch-0.9.21
media-plugins/vdr-epgsearch-0.9.22
media-plugins/vdr-epgsearch-0.9.23
media-plugins/vdr-epgsearch-0.9.24
media-plugins/vdr-epgsearch-0.9.24_beta19
media-plugins/vdr-epgsearch-0.9.24_beta22
media-plugins/vdr-epgsearch-0.9.24_beta23
media-plugins/vdr-epgsearch-0.9.24_beta26
media-plugins/vdr-epgsearch-0.9.24_rc2
media-tv/gentoo-vdr-scripts-0.4.0
media-tv/gentoo-vdr-scripts-0.4.1
media-tv/gentoo-vdr-scripts-0.4.2
media-tv/gentoo-vdr-scripts-0.4.3
media-tv/gentoo-vdr-scripts-0.4.3-r1
media-tv/gentoo-vdr-scripts-0.4.4
media-tv/vdrplugin-rebuild-0.2
media-video/vdr-1.4.6
media-video/vdr-1.4.7-r10
media-video/vdr-1.6.0
media-video/vdr-1.6.0_p1
media-video/vdr-1.6.0_p1-r1
media-video/vdr-1.6.0-r1
media-video/vdr-1.6.0-r2
net-analyzer/fail2ban-0.8.0-r1
net-analyzer/fail2ban-0.8.1
net-analyzer/fail2ban-0.8.2
net-dialup/ppp-2.4.4-r14
net-dialup/ppp-2.4.4-r15
net-firewall/iptables-1.3.5-r4
net-firewall/iptables-1.3.6
net-firewall/iptables-1.3.6-r1
net-firewall/iptables-1.3.7
net-firewall/iptables-1.3.8
net-firewall/iptables-1.3.8-r1
net-firewall/iptables-1.3.8-r2
net-firewall/iptables-1.3.8-r3
net-firewall/iptables-1.4.0
net-mail/getmail-4.7.6
net-mail/getmail-4.7.7
net-mail/getmail-4.7.8
net-mail/getmail-4.8.1
net-mail/mailgraph-1.14
net-misc/asterisk-1.2.13
net-misc/asterisk-1.2.13-r1
net-misc/asterisk-1.2.14
net-misc/asterisk-1.2.14-r1
net-misc/asterisk-1.2.14-r2
net-misc/asterisk-1.2.17
net-misc/asterisk-1.2.17-r1
net-misc/asterisk-1.2.21.1
net-misc/asterisk-1.2.21.1-r1
net-misc/asterisk-1.2.27
net-misc/freenet6-4.2.2
net-misc/freenet6-5.0
net-misc/freenet6-5.1
net-misc/ser-0.9.4
net-misc/ser-0.9.6
net-misc/ser-0.9.7
net-print/cups-1.2.12-r4
net-print/cups-1.2.12-r7
net-print/cups-1.2.12-r8
net-print/cups-1.3.7-r1
net-print/cups-1.3.7-r2
sys-cluster/util-vserver-0.30.214
sys-cluster/util-vserver-0.30.215
sys-fs/udev-114
sys-fs/udev-114-r1
sys-fs/udev-114-r2
sys-fs/udev-115
sys-fs/udev-115-r1
sys-fs/udev-115-r5
sys-fs/udev-115-r6
sys-fs/udev-116
sys-fs/udev-116-r1
sys-fs/udev-117
sys-fs/udev-118
sys-fs/udev-118-r1
sys-fs/udev-118-r2
sys-fs/udev-118-r3
sys-fs/udev-119
sys-fs/udev-119-r1
sys-fs/udev-120
sys-fs/udev-121
sys-fs/udev-122
sys-fs/udev-122-r1
sys-fs/udev-124
sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r10
www-client/surfraw-2.1.5
www-servers/apache-2.2.8
www-servers/apache-2.2.8-r3
www-servers/apache-2.2.8-r4

If the new phase order is staying, then all those packages should be
fixed. It's possible to use has_version in pkg_setup or other phase
and cache the result in a global variable.

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