Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with same name was - Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 16 May 2007 17:23:58 -0400 William L. Thomson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On that note I would hope the vim/vi peeps would rename. app-vim/ant Policy says to go with upstream's naming. This is, after all, why we have categories. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with same name was - Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 08:49 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2007 17:23:58 -0400 William L. Thomson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On that note I would hope the vim/vi peeps would rename. app-vim/ant Policy says to go with upstream's naming. This is, after all, why we have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with same name was - Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 17 May 2007 10:59:09 -0400 William L. Thomson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Policy says to go with upstream's naming. This is, after all, why we have categories. Sure, and along those lines upstream seems to call it ant_menu or ant_menu.vim :)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with same name was - Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 16:03 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2007 10:59:09 -0400 William L. Thomson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Policy says to go with upstream's naming. This is, after all, why we have categories. Sure, and along those lines upstream seems to call it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with same name was - Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 17 May 2007 12:48:11 -0400 William L. Thomson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=155 Not for the versions in the tree they don't. You mean 0.5.3 released 2003-12-28. IMHO that borderlines a stale package or one that should be punted. Or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with same name was - Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-17 Thread Josh Sled
On Thu, May 17, 2007 12:53 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: 'Twas added to the tree at user request. Given that Java's basically a dead language and only being used for legacy applications now, it's I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how you justify calling Java a dead language. --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with same name was - Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-17 Thread Vlastimil Babka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Josh Sled wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2007 12:53 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: 'Twas added to the tree at user request. Given that Java's basically a dead language and only being used for legacy applications now, it's I'm having a hard time trying to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with same name was - Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-17 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 13:07 -0400, Josh Sled wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2007 12:53 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: 'Twas added to the tree at user request. Given that Java's basically a dead language and only being used for legacy applications now, it's I'm having a hard time trying to figure out

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with same name was - Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-16 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 13:07 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 19:52 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: New-style virtuals are just *packages*, or did I get this completely wrong? So how is this situation different from two packages with the same name, but in different

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with same name was - Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-16 Thread Thilo Bangert
It isn't different. That's the problem. If you have two packages with the same name, you have the same problem. On that note I would hope the vim/vi peeps would rename. app-vim/ant and app-vim/sudo IMHO app-vim/ant should really be app-vim/vim-ant or something other than just ant. or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with same name was - Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-16 Thread Jakub Moc
Thilo Bangert napsal(a): It isn't different. That's the problem. If you have two packages with the same name, you have the same problem. On that note I would hope the vim/vi peeps would rename. app-vim/ant and app-vim/sudo and app-xemacs/emerge, g -- jakub signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with same name was - Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-16 Thread Carsten Lohrke
While I always was for uniq package names, tree-wide, renaming doesn't solve anything. Gentoo's binary packages are fundamentally broken. You can't have two binary packages of the same ebuild differing e.g. in use flags, architecture, toolchain, etc. pp. either. Carsten signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with same name was - Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-16 Thread Mike Kelly
On Thu, 17 May 2007 00:37:23 +0200 Thilo Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It isn't different. That's the problem. If you have two packages with the same name, you have the same problem. On that note I would hope the vim/vi peeps would rename. app-vim/ant and app-vim/sudo That's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with same name was - Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-16 Thread Georgi Georgiev
Quoting Mike Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 17 May 2007 00:37:23 +0200 Thilo Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... IMHO app-vim/ant should really be app-vim/vim-ant or something other than just ant. or app-vim/sudo-syntax and app-vim/ant-syntax as there already are a number of ebuilds