Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-06 Thread Philip Webb
060505 Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote: Although modular, KDE 3.5 has to go stable _at once_ and if KMail is totally broken or has major feature loss, we can't. I've seen this stated before, but why does it have to be _at once_ ? Many packages have 1 stable version available, so users might

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-06 Thread Richard Fish
On 5/5/06, Carsten Lohrke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the whining leaves me with the feeling that I'm less interested to work for you. The question What can I do? I do never hear. Stop whining, but decide to help or give another distro a try. These are your choices. Just to try to counter

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-06 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Saturday 06 May 2006 08:48, Philip Webb wrote: I've seen this stated before, but why does it have to be _at once_ ? Because 3.4 and 3.5 does _NOT_ mix together! Many packages have 1 stable version available, so users might have KDE 3.4.3 (all) 3.5.1 (parts) by now, with the rest of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-06 Thread Philip Webb
060506 Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote: On Saturday 06 May 2006 08:48, Philip Webb wrote: I've seen this stated before, but why does it have to be _at once_ ? Because 3.4 and 3.5 does _NOT_ mix together! That's not an explanation: it merely restates your assertion. Many packages have 1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-06 Thread Jakub Moc
Philip Webb wrote: Any stable version of KDE will need kdelibs kdebase , but otherwise why can't the packages be made stable at least as each big downloadable file becomes ready, if not individually ? Because they have to be stable at once. Period. Can't go stable piece by piece. Period.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Bart Braem
Michael Kirkland wrote: I think the problem is that Gentoo is falling into the same sandtrap the Debian project has been mired in forever. arch and ~arch are polarizing into stable, but horribly out of date, and maybe it will work. This leads to people trying to maintain a frankenstinian

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 09:20:08AM +0200, Bart Braem wrote: Michael Kirkland wrote: I think the problem is that Gentoo is falling into the same sandtrap the Debian project has been mired in forever. arch and ~arch are polarizing into stable, but horribly out of date, and maybe it will

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Bart Braem wrote: Xorg 7: 5 months Can't stabilize till portage 2.1 is stable. Doesn't matter how many open bugs we've got, or how well it works. Thanks, Donnie signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 05 May 2006 09:20, Bart Braem wrote: KDE 3.5.2: 1.5 months (I know our devs get prereleases, so we had this time) Now I think we really explained that well enough, we're working to mark it stable as soon as we can. *We don't care if you wanted it stable yesterday, it will be stable

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Duncan
Jeff Rollin posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 05 May 2006 06:28:53 +0100: Or maybe we could move to a fixed release cycle. Debian uses 18 (?) months, but maybe a 3- or 6-month release cycle would suit us better Actually, Gentoo already has that, altho the period is still

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Caleb Tennis
I understand you don't care about how many users you have, Gentoo is not a bussiness. But if I try to convince users about the current situation that is hard. I can't explain this, I really can't. My only answer is put it in /etc/portage/package.keywords. But that one is growing very fast...

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Duncan
Philip Webb posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 05 May 2006 03:37:06 -0400: That's very much my own impression. I am now using ~x86 versions of Vim Vim-core Gvim Cdargs Openoffice Eix Euses Gqview Gwenview Portage Firefox Galeon Htop KDE -- all of which which I use regularly