Re: [gentoo-dev] Summer of Code students and Planet Gentoo

2006-05-29 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Sunday 28 May 2006 14:42, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote:
 On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 20:30 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
  Daniel Drake wrote:
   1. We encourage our students to write about their projects on weblogs,
   and will set them up temporary weblogs at gentoo-soc.com if they do not
   have them already
 
  Why a new domain? We've already got a blog setup at
  http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/ and could just add
  http://planet.gentoo.org/summerofcode/ or something. If you want
  something like this, why not (soc|summerofcode).gentoo.org/?

 The worry there was whether it would create controversy if they were
 hosted with other developer blogs, so we figured we'd host the actual
 blogs off-site (should irk less people, although presumably most will
 already have external blogs already) and just aggregate them on
 planet/universe (hopefully).

Perhaps add a nice logo for them on the planet website. This will serve 
identifying purposes, and as well give extra visibility to the SoC project.

Paul

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Summer of Code students and Planet Gentoo

2006-05-28 Thread Daniel Drake

Donnie Berkholz wrote:

Why a new domain? We've already got a blog setup at
http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/ and could just add
http://planet.gentoo.org/summerofcode/ or something. If you want
something like this, why not (soc|summerofcode).gentoo.org/?


The domain is already set up, and hosting them there avoids any 
controversy that might arise from hosting them at /developers. Setting 
up /summerofcode sounds like extra work on my part.


In short, it doesn't matter where they are hosted - the point is that 
they are aggregated on the Gentoo-hosted Planet sites. I expect most of 
them will have external weblogs anyway.


Daniel

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Summer of Code students and Planet Gentoo

2006-05-28 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 20:30 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 Daniel Drake wrote:
  1. We encourage our students to write about their projects on weblogs,
  and will set them up temporary weblogs at gentoo-soc.com if they do not
  have them already
 
 Why a new domain? We've already got a blog setup at
 http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/ and could just add
 http://planet.gentoo.org/summerofcode/ or something. If you want
 something like this, why not (soc|summerofcode).gentoo.org/?

The worry there was whether it would create controversy if they were
hosted with other developer blogs, so we figured we'd host the actual
blogs off-site (should irk less people, although presumably most will
already have external blogs already) and just aggregate them on
planet/universe (hopefully). 

Christel


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Summer of Code students and Planet Gentoo

2006-05-28 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 13:05 +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 11:17:41PM +0100, Daniel Drake wrote:
  1. We encourage our students to write about their projects on weblogs, 
  and will set them up temporary weblogs at gentoo-soc.com if they do not 
  have them already
  
  2. We create a new planet at http://planet.gentoo.org/soc for the 
  duration of the summer, and aggregate their weblogs there.
  
  3. Additionally, we add them to Planet Gentoo and Gentoo Universe for 
  the duration of the summer.
 
 What a great idea :)
 
 I think it's important to get these SoC-students well-integrated in
 our [developer] community. Having their gentoo-soc blogs aggregated on
 Gentoo Planet|Universe seems like a good starting point to me.
 
 Hopefully, some of these young and competent students will decide to
 stick with Gentoo if we can manage to make them feel welcome ;)

That is certainly what we are hoping for :)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Summer of Code students and Planet Gentoo

2006-05-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Christel Dahlskjaer wrote:
 The worry there was whether it would create controversy if they were
 hosted with other developer blogs, so we figured we'd host the actual
 blogs off-site (should irk less people, although presumably most will
 already have external blogs already) and just aggregate them on
 planet/universe (hopefully). 

Next time something like this comes up, it might be worthwhile to figure
out whether there actually would be any controversy first. =)

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Summer of Code students and Planet Gentoo

2006-05-28 Thread Lance Albertson
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 Christel Dahlskjaer wrote:
 The worry there was whether it would create controversy if they were
 hosted with other developer blogs, so we figured we'd host the actual
 blogs off-site (should irk less people, although presumably most will
 already have external blogs already) and just aggregate them on
 planet/universe (hopefully). 
 
 Next time something like this comes up, it might be worthwhile to figure
 out whether there actually would be any controversy first. =)

I agree here. Sometimes the easiest way out isn't the best. We could
have supported this easily and with just a little bit of discussion. I
imagine we would have gotten a few vocal people fired up, but overall I
don't think we would mind. You've got to keep in mind that these people
have a lot of potential of becoming Gentoo devs themselves... just in a
very long drawn out recruitment process. :-)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Summer of Code students and Planet Gentoo

2006-05-28 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 13:57 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 Christel Dahlskjaer wrote:
  The worry there was whether it would create controversy if they were
  hosted with other developer blogs, so we figured we'd host the actual
  blogs off-site (should irk less people, although presumably most will
  already have external blogs already) and just aggregate them on
  planet/universe (hopefully). 
 
 Next time something like this comes up, it might be worthwhile to figure
 out whether there actually would be any controversy first. =)

Thus putting it to the list and asking for input, which was the idea of
Daniels e-mail ;)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Summer of Code students and Planet Gentoo

2006-05-28 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 20:29 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote:
 Donnie Berkholz wrote:
  Christel Dahlskjaer wrote:
  The worry there was whether it would create controversy if they were
  hosted with other developer blogs, so we figured we'd host the actual
  blogs off-site (should irk less people, although presumably most will
  already have external blogs already) and just aggregate them on
  planet/universe (hopefully). 
  
  Next time something like this comes up, it might be worthwhile to figure
  out whether there actually would be any controversy first. =)
 
 I agree here. Sometimes the easiest way out isn't the best. We could
 have supported this easily and with just a little bit of discussion. I
 imagine we would have gotten a few vocal people fired up, but overall I
 don't think we would mind. You've got to keep in mind that these people
 have a lot of potential of becoming Gentoo devs themselves... just in a
 very long drawn out recruitment process. :-)

I believe the idea behind asking the list was to do just that, see what
people thought. As of course, if everyone was rather opposed to the idea
we'd sort of not push for having them on planet, universe and the lot.
Personally, I would have loved to be able to offer them blogs
at /developers but the general consensus was that it wouldn't be right
just yet. However, if people believe it wouldn't really be a problem,
and it wouldn't cause too much of an extra workload for Steve and
Daniel, then I for one would be more than happy to go with that option. 

And yes, I think we are all hoping that they will be of developer
quality and that we can recruit them post Summer of Code. 

Heck, did you guys know that one of our students was the most popular
student, out of the 6 projects he applied to, 4 had accepted his
proposal. As luck would have it, he decided he wanted to work with us.

Having said that, I believe that we ended up with a good quality bunch
of people, and I am confident we will be gaining a lot from their work,
and hopefully also from future contributions post SoC, and I hope that
they in turn will find the experience to be one that benefits them too. 


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