Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On 17 Dec 2015 11:57, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On 15 Dec 2015 20:23, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > >> > short/mid term, i was thinking of writing a new package that > >> > holds the db and tools to query/manage it. user.eclass would > >> > DEPEND on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

> On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 15 Dec 2015 20:23, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> > short/mid term, i was thinking of writing a new package that >> > holds the db and tools to query/manage it. user.eclass would >> > DEPEND on it and ask it for details, perhaps even doing the >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 15 Dec 2015 07:28, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > On 14 Dec 2015 21:22, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > >> The spec seems incomplete. I cannot find a description of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On 15 Dec 2015 10:35, Alec Warner wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > a flat text file akin to /etc/passwd is not readable. xml is readable. > > u trollin' bro? in this domain, it's harder to screw up xml and not notice (either human or machine) whereas it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On 15 Dec 2015 10:24, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > i looked through portage code and we do have xml parsing sprinkled > throughout, mostly in repoman for obvious reasons. why are we trying to > avoid xml? to be honest i don't have strong feelings about either the > flat file (a la /etc/passwd) or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On 15 Dec 2015 22:35, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Whatever the format will be, the more important question is where this > would be implemented: > > - In the package manager, with user and group definition in profiles. > This seems to be what GLEP 27 suggests, and as far as I can see, it > would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

> On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 15 Dec 2015 15:56, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> ESR's case study about the password file format seems to disagree: >> http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/taoup/html/ch05s01.html#id2901332 > because you cited it, i read it anyways. that document is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On 15 Dec 2015 15:56, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > a flat text file akin to /etc/passwd is not readable. xml is readable. > > ESR's case study about the password file format seems to disagree: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On 15 Dec 2015 20:23, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 12/15/15 4:55 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On 15 Dec 2015 22:35, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> Whatever the format will be, the more important question is where this > >> would be implemented: > >> > >> - In the package manager, with user and group

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On 15 Dec 2015 07:28, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On 14 Dec 2015 21:22, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> The spec seems incomplete. I cannot find a description of the user and > >> group files' format. (But in fact, there is a standard format which >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:56:34 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > a flat text file akin to /etc/passwd is not readable. xml is readable. > > ESR's case study about the password file format seems to disagree: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:19:36 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 15 Dec 2015 07:28, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > On 14 Dec 2015 21:22, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > >> The spec seems incomplete. I cannot find a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

> On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > a flat text file akin to /etc/passwd is not readable. xml is readable. ESR's case study about the password file format seems to disagree: http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/taoup/html/ch05s01.html#id2901332 I think the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/15/15 4:55 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 15 Dec 2015 22:35, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> Whatever the format will be, the more important question is where this >> would be implemented: >> >> - In the package manager, with user and group definition

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On 15 Dec 2015 16:00, Michał Górny wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:56:34 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > a flat text file akin to /etc/passwd is not readable. xml is readable. > > > > ESR's case study about the password file format

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On 15 Dec 2015 15:33, Michał Górny wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:19:36 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On 15 Dec 2015 07:28, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > > > On 14 Dec 2015 21:22, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > >> The spec seems

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On 15 Dec 2015 15:56, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > a flat text file akin to /etc/passwd is not readable. xml is readable. > > ESR's case study about the password file format seems to disagree: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

Dnia 13 grudnia 2015 21:41:02 CET, "Robin H. Johnson" napisał(a): >On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 09:03:51PM +0300, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: >> Hi all! >> >> We trying to use ldap for users @work, many of our workstations >running >> binary gentoo based distro called Calculate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On 14 Dec 2015 21:22, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > The spec seems incomplete. I cannot find a description of the user and > group files' format. (But in fact, there is a standard format which > suggests itself, namely that of the passwd(5) and group(5) files.) i recall going with xml at the time, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

> On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 14 Dec 2015 21:22, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> The spec seems incomplete. I cannot find a description of the user and >> group files' format. (But in fact, there is a standard format which >> suggests itself, namely that of the passwd(5) and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

Ulrich Mueller wrote: > (If directories are really needed, we could use the scheme foreseen > in [1] for package.* and use.* files.) So package.{users,group} ? > Also a mechanism how a subprofile could undefine a user or group > defined in its parent seems to be missing. Maybe set the id to -1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On 12/14/15 12:06 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 07:49:42AM +0300, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Ok. Since there is GLEP27 we should make it reality. To do so i think we >> should >> 1. Have some list of system uid/gid (on wiki for example). Also we need >> to agree

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On 12/14/15 3:22 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > Dnia 13 grudnia 2015 21:41:02 CET, "Robin H. Johnson" > napisał(a): >>On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 09:03:51PM +0300, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: >>> Hi all! >>> >>> We trying to use ldap for users @work, many of our workstations >>running

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

> On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, Michał Górny wrote: > As far as I can see, this GLEP predates EAPI and does not meet > modern standards. It needs to be updated or killed with fire. > For a start, relation to EAPI needs to be defined. This will likely > require both profiles and ebuilds to use the new

[gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 09:03:51PM +0300, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > Hi all! > > We trying to use ldap for users @work, many of our workstations running > binary gentoo based distro called Calculate linux. However if we wanna > have wide use of ldap there is a need for determenistic system group

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

Hi! Ok. Since there is GLEP27 we should make it reality. To do so i think we should 1. Have some list of system uid/gid (on wiki for example). Also we need to agree on uid/gid numbers for services 2. Add uid/gid from list to existing ebuilds 3. Make a repoman (or may be eclass) check, that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 07:49:42AM +0300, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > Hi! > > Ok. Since there is GLEP27 we should make it reality. To do so i think we > should > 1. Have some list of system uid/gid (on wiki for example). Also we need > to agree on uid/gid numbers for services This database was