Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 3:56 PM Matt Turner wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:32 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> > >> > So, considering all the feedback from mailing list and IRC: >> > >> >/usr/portage ->

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-29 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 29/07/18 21:01, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > Why not stick the repos in /var/repos and not /var/db/repos? If we're > just making up paths, why not make up a shorter one? I don't think > any other linux distros use /var/db... > *BSD I believe .. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 3:56 PM Matt Turner wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:32 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > So, considering all the feedback from mailing list and IRC: > > > >/usr/portage -> /var/db/repos/gentoo > >/usr/portage/distfiles ->

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:32 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > >>> Users must never need to modify files in /var/lib to configure a >>> package's operation, and _the_specific_file_hierarchy_ used to >>> store the data _must_not_be_

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:40 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 27 lipca 2018 10:32:17 CEST, Ulrich Mueller napisał(a): >>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: >> Users must never need to modify files in /var/lib to configure a package's operation, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-29 Thread Ulrich Mueller
[Proxying a message from Anders Thomson ] Hi Ulrich, As non-devs aren't allowed to post to gentoo-dev, I was hoping that you would proxy this question/comment for me. While on the subject of changing defaults, could we consider changing the (default) location of the pkg db? Roughly everything in

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-29 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu pią, 27.07.2018 o godzinie 08∶06 -0700, użytkownik Brian Dolbec napisał: > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 16:31:15 +0200 > Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018, Corentin “Nado” Pazdera wrote: > > > July 27, 2018 4:07 PM, "William Hubbs" > > > wrote: > > > > Section 5.5.2

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-27 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 16:31:15 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018, Corentin “Nado” Pazdera wrote: > > > July 27, 2018 4:07 PM, "William Hubbs" > > wrote: > > >> Section 5.5.2 describes the directory structure of /var/cache. > >> These paths are all optional [1]. > >> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-27 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2018, Corentin “Nado” Pazdera wrote: > July 27, 2018 4:07 PM, "William Hubbs" wrote: >> Section 5.5.2 describes the directory structure of /var/cache. >> These paths are all optional [1]. >> >> /var/cache/fonts >> /var/cache/man >> /var/cache/www >> /var/cache/ >> >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-27 Thread Corentin “Nado” Pazdera
July 27, 2018 4:07 PM, "William Hubbs" wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 10:32:17AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> So, considering all the feedback from mailing list and IRC: >> >> /usr/portage -> /var/db/repos/gentoo >> /usr/portage/distfiles -> /var/cache{,/gentoo}/distfiles >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 10:32:17AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > So, considering all the feedback from mailing list and IRC: > >/usr/portage -> /var/db/repos/gentoo >/usr/portage/distfiles -> /var/cache{,/gentoo}/distfiles >/usr/portage/packages ->

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-27 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 27 lipca 2018 10:32:17 CEST, Ulrich Mueller napisał(a): >> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > >>> Users must never need to modify files in /var/lib to configure a >>> package's operation, and _the_specific_file_hierarchy_ used to >>> store the data _must_not_be_

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-27 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: >> Users must never need to modify files in /var/lib to configure a >> package's operation, and _the_specific_file_hierarchy_ used to >> store the data _must_not_be_ _exposed_ to regular users." > One small note, while it is never

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-19 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Ulrich Mueller schrieb: Users must never need to modify files in /var/lib to configure a package's operation, and _the_specific_file_hierarchy_ used to store the data _must_not_be_ _exposed_ to regular users." One small note, while it is never needed to modify, skel.ebuild would then be a

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-18 Thread Christopher Head
On July 18, 2018 2:55:55 AM PDT, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >It was mentioned that all three directories (ebuild repository, binary >packages, distfiles) have some characteristics of a cache. However, I >think this is much more true for distfiles than for the other two, >which cannot be easily

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 9:30 AM Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Jul 2018, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 5:55 AM Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> Also, there is that strange requirement that the > >> file hierarchy must not be exposed to users. At least for the > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-18 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2018, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 5:55 AM Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> Also, there is that strange requirement that the >> file hierarchy must not be exposed to users. At least for the >> make.profile link we rely on a well defined hierarchy, and certainly >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 5:55 AM Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > "Pertains to one specific host" doesn't seem to apply to the Gentoo > repository though. Sure it does. The state of the package repository on a Gentoo host doesn't affect any other host. Sure, that state is synced from someplace that

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-18 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 07/18/2018 11:55 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > I therefore suggest the following scheme: The full scheme looks good to me -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description:

[gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-18 Thread Ulrich Mueller
[Moving the thread back from -project to -dev.] > On Fri, 13 Jul 2018, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jul 2018, Rich Freeman wrote: >> Well, /var/lib/ is 3 right there. If 5 is no good then you >> only have one left. We could just make it /var/lib/repos which seems >>