On 10-11-2005 20:55:37 +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
Ok, you want a reaction, because you are Feeling Blue[1], right.
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 20:11 +0100, Grobian wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
That's your first misconception right there. Most users don't sign up
for things.
Doesn't
On 10-11-2005 21:33:48 +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
We need to establish *one* authoritative source of news. We can't do
that if we simultaneously launch several sources of news all at once.
We have to launch *one* service first, give the userbase time to adjust
to that, and then start making
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:19:15 +0100
Grobian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10-11-2005 21:33:48 +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
We need to establish *one* authoritative source of news. We can't
do that if we simultaneously launch several sources of news all at
once. We have to launch *one*
On 11-11-2005 10:38:43 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote:
No, the central repository certainly shouldn't be on the web (whatever
that means in the first place), it has to be somewhere in CVS
(easily accessible by all devs, though not necessarily in a direct way)
and should be replicated to as many
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Next draft will propose being able to append .read to a filename
to mark it read without deleting it.
But don't use .read, as it can be understood as both present tense
(imperative) and past tense. Better use something like .seen.
Benno
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On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 10:03 +0100, Grobian wrote:
On 10-11-2005 20:55:37 +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
I am just in the opinion that we lack a system where users can find the
information they need. That would help a certain type of users,
absolutely not all of them. So yes, after that,
On Friday 11 November 2005 00:35, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:12:28 + Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| Should the GLEP explain how Portage will know how many unread news
| items there are in /var/lib/gentoo/news? I couldn't spot where this
| is covered in the
On Monday 07 November 2005 22:56, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Ok, this is a change to the GLEP process, so it itself needs to be a
GLEP... All it does is propose that GLEPs be allowed to stick example
code in a subdirectory rather than having to inline things or shove
them off on someone's
On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 21:33 +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
My personal conclusion was that there is only one place where we can
have any degree of certainty that we have the attention of 100% of the
userbase - or as near as damn it. I believe that place is right beneath
the message that tells
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 04:52 +0100, Luca Barbato wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:07:37 -0800 Mike Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| What about something like /etc/portage/news.read, which contains a
| single news file per line. Perhaps have support for something like
|
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 10:38 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:19:15 +0100
Grobian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10-11-2005 21:33:48 +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
We need to establish *one* authoritative source of news. We can't
do that if we simultaneously launch several
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 00:58:14 +
Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Feedback from people who have something useful to say would be very
much welcomed, assuming of course that they've read the GLEP.
Things that I think are generally ok as is:
- news item format
- news item distribution
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:40:53 +0100 Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| I've already asked a similar question in another mail (in other
| context) without an answer, but how many news items do people believe
| will exist at any given time? Depending on the actual implementation
| it might be
Marius Mauch wrote: [Fri Nov 11 2005, 11:40:53AM CST]
Things that I'd like to be changed/I'm not completely sure about:
- filtering of news items:
I've already asked a similar question in another mail (in other
context) without an answer, but how many news items do people believe
will exist
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 10:03 +0100, Grobian wrote:
Ok, you want a reaction, because you are Feeling Blue[1], right.
The only reaction I want is for us to meet the goals that I have set
out, instead of trying to move those goals.
You describe here (and in your diary) the aim to reach 100% of our
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 18:40 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote:
I've already asked a similar question in another mail (in other
context) without an answer, but how many news items do people believe
will exist at any given time?
We won't know for certain until people start using it. I expect that
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:37:15 + Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| For example, there's no real reason why GLSA's couldn't been delivered
| via this at some point (although I'd prefer a You have X amount of
| security fixes to apply type message adding to emerge, and treating
| GLSAs as
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 22:37 +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
Things that should definitely be changed:
- Integration with existing systems:
This definitely should be a requirement for the GLEP to be considered
final. It doesn't prevent some thing being implemented sooner than
others, but
On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 16:36 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 11:12:43AM -0500, solar wrote:
On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 14:38 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 01:11:24PM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote:
Obviously if this is going to be applied the
Grant Goodyear posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:09:58 -0600:
I was going to say that the only way new news items could appear is
during an emerge --sync, but of course that's not true for people who
either add an overlay or use CVS. I'd be comfortable with
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 18:22 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
It seems to be your own quest to have the news *only*
delivered by portage.
I thought I'd been very clear in the email that you've replied to that I
support making the news available via other ways. It's the timing that
I'm a bit
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 17:30 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote:
The November Gentoo Council meeting will be held on #gentoo-council next
week, Tuesday, November 15th, 20:00 UTC, presided by Seemant Kulleen.
The deadline for submitting items for the meeting agenda is set to
Sunday, November 13th,
maillog: 11/11/2005-05:48:50(-0700): Duncan types
Perhaps $PORTDIR/news, with seen and unseen subdirs (and appropriate
no-sync settings on the subdirs)
Remember that $PORTDIR can be shared between machines. That's why
world is kept in /var/lib/portage.
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On Saturday 12 November 2005 07:19, Stuart Herbert wrote:
When we have emerge --news done,
I keep seeing references to emerge --news but at the same time am seeing
that news readers are external. What exactly is `emerge --news` meant to do?
Print out You've got news!? Manage some external
Hi all,
Now that my job situation has settled down, I have some free time
floating
around, and a bit of finances to cover it. That said, I'd like to see if
there would be interest in a bug wrangling event of some sort taking place in
the SF area. If I get enough interest, I'll go
Georgi Georgiev posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on
Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:27:47 +0900:
maillog: 11/11/2005-05:48:50(-0700): Duncan types
Perhaps $PORTDIR/news, with seen and unseen subdirs (and appropriate
no-sync settings on the subdirs)
Remember that $PORTDIR can be shared
Hola,
Short version is that via bug 112082 plus glibc upstream doing
something stupid, a lovely bug has reared it's head. Basically,
users upgrading from glibc-2.3.5.200*.ebuild have libc.so-2.3.90.so,
and glibc-2.3.6.ebuild has libc.so-2.3.6.so .
ldconfig views 2.3.90 as greater then 2.3.6;
On Friday 11 November 2005 22:53, Brian Harring wrote:
Hola,
Short version is that via bug 112082 plus glibc upstream doing
something stupid, a lovely bug has reared it's head. Basically,
users upgrading from glibc-2.3.5.200*.ebuild have libc.so-2.3.90.so,
and glibc-2.3.6.ebuild has
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