Re: [gentoo-dev] How to speed up maintenance and other Gentoo work?

2009-03-13 Thread Thilo Bangert
one thing that could perhaps speed up gentoo is specifying at what point or what steps are required before it is ok to step on others toes. we have the QAcanfix keyword, for bugs where QA threatens to just fix the bug if the maintainer doesn't react timely... but it appears to be the tree

[gentoo-dev] Re: Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3

2009-03-13 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Tiziano Müller dev-z...@gentoo.org: Am Montag, den 09.03.2009, 10:06 +0100 schrieb Christian Faulhammer: Hi, Daniel Pielmeier daniel.pielme...@googlemail.com: 2009/3/9 Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org: I don't know if there is a bug somewhere (I did not find one),

Re: [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-03-13 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
(trying to have people understand the idea, not to discuss in this thread) On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 06:18 +1300, Alistair Bush wrote: As long as we want/have to support PMs lacking EAPI detection in '*.ebuild' to mask ebuilds with unknown EAPI, each approach to add EAPI to an '*.ebuild' must

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to speed up maintenance and other Gentoo work?

2009-03-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Thilo Bangert bang...@gentoo.org wrote: one thing that could perhaps speed up gentoo is specifying at what point or what steps are required before it is ok to step on others toes. we have the QAcanfix keyword, for bugs where QA threatens to just fix the bug if

[gentoo-dev] gentoo KVM images now available :)

2009-03-13 Thread alex . alexander
Hello :) I've created some KVM images to aid Gentoo Developers and the KDE herd in ebuild development and maintainance. Two images are currently available: [1] an X-less ~x86 with various tools preinstalled [like layman] and a copy of the first ~x86 with kdebase-meta[kdeprefix] and a few other

[gentoo-dev] Re: Developer Retirements

2009-03-13 Thread Duncan
Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org posted eafa4c130903101013s3bb64404g9e65ca0fc8973...@mail.gmail.com, excerpted below, on Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:13:36 -0500: So really an effective solution might be for the recruiters/retirement staff to change a user's shell with a script that spits out a message

[gentoo-dev] Re: devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread Duncan
Thilo Bangert bang...@gentoo.org posted 200903101315.52142.bang...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:15:36 +0100: the presumption seems to be, that as a dev one has to be available via IRC. it has long been my feeling that Gentoo as a project could realize more of its

[gentoo-dev] Re: devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net: Thilo Bangert bang...@gentoo.org posted 200903101315.52142.bang...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:15:36 +0100: the presumption seems to be, that as a dev one has to be available via IRC. it has long been my feeling that Gentoo as a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread Thomas Anderson
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 03:37:28PM +, Duncan wrote: Thilo Bangert bang...@gentoo.org posted 200903101315.52142.bang...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:15:36 +0100: the presumption seems to be, that as a dev one has to be available via IRC. it has long been my

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 15:37 Fri 13 Mar , Duncan wrote: Thilo Bangert bang...@gentoo.org posted 200903101315.52142.bang...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:15:36 +0100: the presumption seems to be, that as a dev one has to be available via IRC. it has long been my feeling that Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 19:06 Wed 11 Mar , Thilo Bangert wrote: the presumption seems to be, that as a dev one has to be available via IRC. it has long been my feeling that Gentoo as a project could realize more of its potential by better integrating people who dont do IRC. I think IRC helps to

[gentoo-dev] Tcl/Tk multi-slot testing

2009-03-13 Thread Federico Ferri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've done some work on providing multi-slot Tcl and Tk packages. you can find it on my overlay [1] this work consists basiaclly of: 1) modifying tcl/tk ebuilds for install stuff with - --prefix=/usr/tcl/${SLOT} and merging all the ebuilds code into

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo KVM images now available :)

2009-03-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 15:53 Fri 13 Mar , alex.alexan...@gmail.com wrote: I've created some KVM images to aid Gentoo Developers and the KDE herd in ebuild development and maintainance. I would really appreciate feedback on the images: * things you liked * things missing * things you'd do differently

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo KVM images now available :)

2009-03-13 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Dne pátek 13 Březen 2009 19:19:00 Donnie Berkholz napsal(a): Cool! How did you make these? Can you make them with Catalyst? Actualy i think alex did them as normal gentoo instalation :]. But instead of installing onto normal pc he installed into kvm image. When i tried catalyst few months back

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread AllenJB
Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 19:06 Wed 11 Mar , Thilo Bangert wrote: the presumption seems to be, that as a dev one has to be available via IRC. it has long been my feeling that Gentoo as a project could realize more of its potential by better integrating people who dont do IRC. I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:24 AM, AllenJB gentoo-li...@allenjb.me.uk wrote: Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 19:06 Wed 11 Mar , Thilo Bangert wrote: the presumption seems to be, that as a dev one has to be available via IRC. it has long been my feeling that Gentoo as a project could realize

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread Thilo Bangert
Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org said: On 19:06 Wed 11 Mar , Thilo Bangert wrote: the presumption seems to be, that as a dev one has to be available via IRC. it has long been my feeling that Gentoo as a project could realize more of its potential by better integrating

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Dne pátek 13 Březen 2009 19:52:59 Alec Warner napsal(a): I think that summarizing IRC is insane. Remember we barely got summaries of council meetings (which are at a fixed time and date) until we got a secretary devoted explicitly to that task. Maybe more teams should take up the meeting

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread Thilo Bangert
I think that summarizing IRC is insane. and there is no need for it either. as stated elsewhere much of what is going on on IRC is 'goofing off' - for which IRC is excellent. (heck - i should goof off more often :-) i dont mind the day-to-day work stuff going on on IRC exclusively - but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3

2009-03-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 08:49:16 +0100 Tiziano Müller dev-z...@gentoo.org wrote: So I think it's time for a short eapi bump with some distinct improvements: Some more small candidates to discuss: * How would people feel about killing off automagic RDEPEND=DEPEND behaviour? * Officially kill off

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread Michael Higgins
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:09:04 -0700 Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote: On 19:06 Wed 11 Mar , Thilo Bangert wrote: the presumption seems to be, that as a dev one has to be available via IRC. it has long been my feeling that Gentoo as a project could realize more of its

[gentoo-dev] Re: devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread Duncan
Michael Higgins li...@evolone.org posted 20090313140558.048bb...@lappy.evolone.org, excerpted below, on Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:05:58 -0700: Example? After months of searching for a reason, after seeing many apparently random updates to a previously stable tree of perl modules, I happen to keep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3

2009-03-13 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Freitag, den 13.03.2009, 20:11 + schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 08:49:16 +0100 Tiziano Müller dev-z...@gentoo.org wrote: So I think it's time for a short eapi bump with some distinct improvements: Some more small candidates to discuss: * How would people feel about

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo KVM images now available :)

2009-03-13 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 07:22:05PM +0100, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: When i tried catalyst few months back it was quite broken for few cases it is working fine nowdays? (No flame please i will be really happy to hear that catalyst is nowdays robust and working as expected.) If you can break it

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo KVM images now available :)

2009-03-13 Thread wired
Thomas nailed it, I created the clean one from scratch, then cp'd it and created the kde one on top of it. More/updated images will pop up sooner or later too =] -- | Alex Alexander (wired) | Gentoo KDE Team Herd Tester | | Gentoo'd :: http://linuxized.blogspot.com \ On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 14:05 Fri 13 Mar , Michael Higgins wrote: I believe, rather, that the issue is the 'community' appears more like a 'cabal' when the discussions take place on #IRC and therefore aren't available in public archives. This is kind of like saying: I don't read the Gentoo forums, so

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 19:56 Fri 13 Mar , Thilo Bangert wrote: Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org said: On 19:06 Wed 11 Mar , Thilo Bangert wrote: the presumption seems to be, that as a dev one has to be available via IRC. it has long been my feeling that Gentoo as a project could