On Wed, 2012-03-28 at 08:25 +1300, Kent Fredric wrote:
On 28 March 2012 08:05, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
All,
I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the
specific objections were.
IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all.
I was
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 19:16 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
But that's ok, because extensive studies have shown that the only possible
reasons for putting /usr/portage on its own partition are historical,
since everyone has an SSD now.
Yeah, right. Since I must be the only one out there that
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 02:05:54PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
All,
I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the
specific objections were.
IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all.
I was chatting with another developer who uses
On 28 March 2012 20:46, Alex Alexander wi...@gentoo.org wrote:
For example, my /usr/portage/ on this system looks like this:
portage/
tree/
profiles/ - tree/profiles/
distfiles/
packages/
layman/
it is a big improvement over the current
Brian Dolbec posted on Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:00:02 -0700 as excerpted:
Layman currently uses /var/lib/layman/overlay-name. It would be best I
feel to place them in one common location. I also feel the main tree
should be stored as the same name as it's repo_name value.
If it is done in some
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:24:56PM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote:
Fwiw, I've also long despised the layout of the distfiles directory
being a flat hierarchy, it makes the directory a festering pit of
hellspawn over time on any filesystem that doesn't have dirindex. (
I've seriously had ls take up
Just use categories from repos?
I've always thought splitting distfiles by category would make a huge
amount of sense.
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 3:16 AM, Brian Dolbec dol...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 19:16 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
But that's ok, because extensive studies have shown that the only possible
reasons for putting /usr/portage on its own partition are historical,
since everyone has
OK to lastrite sys-auth/tcb? There are following problems with it:
- it requires non-trivial patching to be compatible with glibc that
doesn't have Openwall patches; the next version of tcb (1.1) would need
to be updated to work with Gentoo
- there are other bugs too (#371167, #408647)
And now
Just use categories from repos?
/usr/portage/distfiles/sys-devel/gcc-1.2.tar.bz2
/usr/portage/distfiles/sys-libs/glibc-2.3.tar.bz2
/usr/portage/distfiles/sys-libs/zlib-3.4.tar.bz2
/usr/portage/distfiles/zomg-soft/zomgawesomesoft-5.3.1.tar.xz
(from zomg repo with custom zomg-soft category
On 03/28/12 10:24, Kent Fredric wrote:
Just use categories from repos?
/usr/portage/distfiles/sys-devel/gcc-1.2.tar.bz2
/usr/portage/distfiles/sys-libs/glibc-2.3.tar.bz2
/usr/portage/distfiles/sys-libs/zlib-3.4.tar.bz2
/usr/portage/distfiles/zomg-soft/zomgawesomesoft-5.3.1.tar.xz
(from
On 28 March 2012 23:04, Piotr Szymaniak szar...@grubelek.pl wrote:
Just use categories from repos?
/usr/portage/distfiles/sys-devel/gcc-1.2.tar.bz2
/usr/portage/distfiles/sys-libs/glibc-2.3.tar.bz2
/usr/portage/distfiles/sys-libs/zlib-3.4.tar.bz2
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:42:26 -0400
Richard Yao r...@cs.stonybrook.edu wrote:
The general sentiment that I have seen from Gentoo developers on IRC
is that overlays are bad and that they are meant for things that will
eventually be merged into the main tree.
What they should really be saying is
On 03/28/12 10:42, Richard Yao wrote:
On 03/28/12 10:24, Kent Fredric wrote:
Just use categories from repos?
/usr/portage/distfiles/sys-devel/gcc-1.2.tar.bz2
/usr/portage/distfiles/sys-libs/glibc-2.3.tar.bz2
/usr/portage/distfiles/sys-libs/zlib-3.4.tar.bz2
On 28 March 2012 20:16, Brian Dolbec dol...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 19:16 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
But that's ok, because extensive studies have shown that the only
possible
reasons for putting /usr/portage on its own partition are historical,
since everyone has an SSD
* Aaron W. Swenson schrieb am 27.03.12 um 21:59 Uhr:
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On 03/27/2012 03:47 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, William Hubbs
willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:25:58AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote:
On
On 03/28/12 03:16, Brian Dolbec wrote:
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 19:16 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
But that's ok, because extensive studies have shown that the only possible
reasons for putting /usr/portage on its own partition are historical,
since everyone has an SSD now.
Yeah, right.
On 03/27/12 15:59, Aaron W. Swenson wrote:
On 03/27/2012 03:47 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, William Hubbs
willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:25:58AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote:
On 28 March 2012 08:05, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org
wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Richard Yao r...@cs.stonybrook.edu wrote:
On 03/28/12 03:16, Brian Dolbec wrote:
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 19:16 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
But that's ok, because extensive studies have shown that the only possible
reasons for putting /usr/portage on its own
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Richard Yao r...@cs.stonybrook.edu wrote:
On 03/28/12 03:16, Brian Dolbec wrote:
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 19:16 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
But that's ok, because extensive studies have shown that the only possible
reasons for putting /usr/portage on its own
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Piotr Szymaniak szar...@grubelek.pl wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:24:56PM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote:
Fwiw, I've also long despised the layout of the distfiles directory
being a flat hierarchy, it makes the directory a festering pit of
hellspawn over time on
Up for removal in 4 weeks:
# Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org (28 Nov 2010)
# Not maintained, multiple security issues.
# Use the split horde ebuilds instead.
www-apps/horde-webmail
www-apps/horde-groupware
# Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org (28 Mar 2012)
# Leftover packages from a packaging attempt of
On 03/28/2012 03:16, Brian Dolbec wrote:
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 19:16 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
But that's ok, because extensive studies have shown that the only possible
reasons for putting /usr/portage on its own partition are historical,
since everyone has an SSD now.
Yeah, right.
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On 03/27/2012 03:05 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
All,
I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the
specific objections were.
IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all. I was
chatting with another
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Aaron W. Swenson titanof...@gentoo.org wrote:
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On 03/27/2012 03:05 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
All,
I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the
specific objections were.
IMO the portage
On Wed, 2012-03-28 at 11:37 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Richard Yao r...@cs.stonybrook.edu wrote:
On 03/28/12 03:16, Brian Dolbec wrote:
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 19:16 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
But that's ok, because extensive studies have shown that the
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Christoph Mende ange...@gentoo.org wrote:
I believe it's /var/lib/name. Here's what FHS says:
/var/cache is intended for cached data from applications. Such data is
locally generated as a result of time-consuming I/O or calculation.
The application must be
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On 03/28/2012 02:53 PM, Christoph Mende wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Aaron W. Swenson
titanof...@gentoo.org wrote:
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On 03/27/2012 03:05 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
All,
I know this has
On 03/28/2012 11:43 AM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote:
The Portage PMS on it's next release would just do a 'mkdir
/var/cache/gentoo-repos/portage/ sync rm -rf /usr/portage
echo Portage has moved' on its next 'emerge --sync' while still
looking in both locations for packages.
(After looking at
On Wed, 2012-03-28 at 14:43 -0400, Aaron W. Swenson wrote:
So, we're all getting way off topic and discussing reorganizing the
whole enchilada.
How about we all agree or disagree on the primary point: The Portage
tree doesn't belong in /usr.
I believe that it does belong under
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On 28/03/12 03:04 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Christoph Mende
ange...@gentoo.org wrote:
I believe it's /var/lib/name. Here's what FHS says: /var/cache
is intended for cached data from applications. Such data is
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 12:04:46PM +0200, Piotr Szymaniak wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:24:56PM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote:
Fwiw, I've also long despised the layout of the distfiles directory
being a flat hierarchy, it makes the directory a festering pit of
hellspawn over time on any
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:49:00 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Hello
I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to
create a separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I remember my
first Gentoo systems had it inside / and that lead to a lot of
fragmentation, much
Gentoo/FreeBSD is currently using the BSD license, but it seems that
this is not the license used by the BSD project:
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html
In particular, the FreeBSD license removes the third clause and appends
The views and conclusions contained in the software
On 03/28/12 20:27, Richard Yao wrote:
Gentoo/FreeBSD is currently using the BSD license, but it seems that
this is not the license used by the BSD project:
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html
In particular, the FreeBSD license removes the third clause and appends
The
Joshua Saddler wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:49:00 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Hello
I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to
create a separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I remember my
first Gentoo systems had it inside / and that lead to a lot of
Marc Schiffbauer wrote:
* Aaron W. Swenson schrieb am 27.03.12 um 21:59 Uhr:
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On 03/27/2012 03:47 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, William Hubbs
/var/cache/{ebuilds,distfiles,eclasses,profiles}
Or we can just call it
On 2012-03-28 Wed 17:31, Richard Yao wrote:
Gentoo/FreeBSD is currently using the BSD license, but it seems that
this is not the license used by the BSD project:
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html
In particular, the FreeBSD license removes the third clause and appends
On 03/28/12 21:28, Tim Harder wrote:
On 2012-03-28 Wed 17:31, Richard Yao wrote:
Gentoo/FreeBSD is currently using the BSD license, but it seems that
this is not the license used by the BSD project:
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html
In particular, the FreeBSD license
Dale posted on Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:35:40 -0500 as excerpted:
Joshua Saddler wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:49:00 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org
wrote:
I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to create a
separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I remember my first
Ian Stakenvicius posted on Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:53:16 -0400 as excerpted:
Although, we could always make emerge do an automatic --sync if, say,
/path/to/portage/profiles doesn't exist. :)
Ugh, no. Some (many?) of us have a separate portage tree partition, and
occasionally accidentally do an
Duncan wrote:
Dale posted on Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:35:40 -0500 as excerpted:
Joshua Saddler wrote:
Agreed, tho ACTUALLY having the documentation available, AND LINKING to
it in the handbook (For an in-depth discussion, read...), would be a
good thing.
Well, way back when I first
Duncan wrote:
Ian Stakenvicius posted on Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:53:16 -0400 as excerpted:
Although, we could always make emerge do an automatic --sync if, say,
/path/to/portage/profiles doesn't exist. :)
Ugh, no. Some (many?) of us have a separate portage tree partition, and
occasionally
Hello!
Would it make sense to move these ebuilds to a dedicated overlay?
I can think of one IPS that uses both Gentoo and Horde [1] (though I'm
not sure which version and if in combination). A imagine that a
dedicated overlay could be both a service to people who still rely on
horde and at the
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