Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: trimming the @system set [was: adding sys-apps/iproute2 to the @system set]

2014-09-10 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, September 07, 2014 05:57:57 PM Joshua Kinard wrote: On 09/07/2014 17:04, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Joshua Kinard ku...@gentoo.org wrote: snipped As for Parallel builds, do you make make -jX? Or running concurrent emerges in different shells? I

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: trimming the @system set [was: adding sys-apps/iproute2 to the @system set]

2014-09-10 Thread Duncan
J. Roeleveld posted on Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:08:56 +0200 as excerpted: The vi and emacs camps agreeing on something? Impossible! I think both camps do the following: emerge preferred editor emerge -C nano as one of the first steps. The first thing I do on a new install as soon as a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating and killing the concept of herds

2014-09-10 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 09-09-2014 a las 21:45 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: [...] I believe it would be benfiicial to just deprecate and eventually drop herd/ in favor of explicit maintainer/ using the alias. I don't know if someone has other use of herds.xml but it the contents are either outdated or

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating and killing the concept of herds

2014-09-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Kent Fredric kentfred...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 September 2014 10:23, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: I don't understand your concern. I'm only saying we should stop relying on that stupid out-of-repository herds.xml file and put the e-mail address

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating and killing the concept of herds

2014-09-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: Personally I would vote for simply have a maintainer tag pointing to the alias but we would still need to keep a list of real maintainers for that alias as usually not all people listed in the alias are willing to maintain

Re: [gentoo-dev] Does the scm ebuild masking policy make sense for git?

2014-09-10 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 19:12:28 + hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Jauhien Piatlicki: When I accept ~arch I expect that no live ebuilds will be built. I think other gentoo users expect the same. Just because users are used to it doesn't make it better. How does it make it better

Re: [gentoo-dev] Does the scm ebuild masking policy make sense for git?

2014-09-10 Thread hasufell
Tom Wijsman: On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 19:12:28 + hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Jauhien Piatlicki: When I accept ~arch I expect that no live ebuilds will be built. I think other gentoo users expect the same. Just because users are used to it doesn't make it better. How does it

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating and killing the concept of herds

2014-09-10 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:45:49 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Let's keep it short: I think herds don't serve any special purpose nowadays. Their existence is mostly resulting in lack of consistency and inconveniences. +1; to summarize my thoughts: Herds misrepresent manpower.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating and killing the concept of herds

2014-09-10 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-09-10, o godz. 07:53:31 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: Personally I would vote for simply have a maintainer tag pointing to the alias but we would still need to keep a list of real maintainers for

Re: OT - My last one to this thread - Skype + Tox - Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: maintainer-needed@ packages need you!

2014-09-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 07:50:05 +0200 J. Roeleveld wrote: I'm talking about the following research: https://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=1cad=rjauact =8ved=0CB4QFjAAurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.blackhat.com%2Fpresentations%2Fbh-eur

Re: [gentoo-dev] Does the scm ebuild masking policy make sense for git?

2014-09-10 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:56:04 + hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Tom Wijsman: On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 19:12:28 + hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Jauhien Piatlicki: When I accept ~arch I expect that no live ebuilds will be built. I think other gentoo users expect the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Does the scm ebuild masking policy make sense for git?

2014-09-10 Thread hasufell
Tom Wijsman: It improves usability by providing additional information. Usability is not to be found in information that is subject to change. Please also set DEPEND, RDEPEND, EGIT_REPO_URI, DESCRIPTION and the rest of them to , because they are all subject to change. So, both quotes

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Deprecating and killing the concept of herds

2014-09-10 Thread Steven J. Long
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 07:53:31AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: Personally I would vote for simply have a maintainer tag pointing to the alias but we would still need to keep a list of real maintainers for that alias as

[gentoo-dev] Re: Does the scm ebuild masking policy make sense for git?

2014-09-10 Thread Steven J. Long
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 09:03:00PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: Right now the general policy is that we don't allow unmasked (hard or via keywords) ebuilds in the tree if they use an scm to fetch their sources. There are a bunch of reasons for this, and for the most part they make sense. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating and killing the concept of herds

2014-09-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Dnia 2014-09-10, o godz. 07:53:31 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: Personally I would vote for simply have a maintainer tag pointing to

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-compat

2014-09-10 Thread Ulrich Mueller
# Ulrich Müller u...@gentoo.org (10 Sep 2014) # Multiple security vulnerabilities, bug #510960. # Masked for removal in 30 days, bug #517932. app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-compat pgpLYsx1bHQzD.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating and killing the concept of herds

2014-09-10 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/10/2014 03:01 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:45:49 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Let's keep it short: I think herds don't serve any special purpose nowadays. Their existence is mostly resulting in lack of

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Deprecating and killing the concept of herds

2014-09-10 Thread Duncan
Markos Chandras posted on Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:21:24 +0100 as excerpted: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/10/2014 03:01 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:45:49 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Let's keep it short: I think herds don't serve any

[gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] Split install_qa_check() into install-qa-check.d scripts

2014-09-10 Thread Michał Górny
Convert the horrendous install_qa_check() function into a plug-in system that calls separate QA checking scripts from install-qa-check.d. --- bin/install-qa-check.d/05double-D | 17 + bin/install-qa-check.d/05prefix | 117 +++