Re: [gentoo-dev] Ada compiler: split complete, naming suggestions for gnat-gpl?

2006-01-15 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:44:41 +0100 George Shapovalov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. 2005 stands for the standard revision namme (as in Ada 2005) really rather than for a particular version. To elaborate for those unfamiliar with Ada; this is the same sort of thing as C89, C99. Enforcing the

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion 1/2

2006-01-19 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:33:02 -0500 solar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 17:56 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: DEBUG_CFLAGS=DEBUG_CXXFLAGS=-O -g Mike, how about DEBUG_CFLAGS=DEBUG_CXXFLAGS=-O -g -fno-stack-protector -fno-pie It's enough to do LDFLAGS=-nopie to get debuggable

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion 1/2

2006-01-20 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:28:53 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 19 January 2006 18:52, Mark Loeser wrote: Please lets avoid this assumption. I'd love to make it so we never make this assumption anywhere in the tree so that we could actually build GCC without pie or

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables

2006-02-09 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 22:48:32 +0100 Grobian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please find attached GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables. Could you add a definition of 'safe' to the GLEP? It's not clear what this means at the moment. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Putting all log related packages into it's own category (sys-logging)

2006-02-20 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:13:46 +0100 Bjarke Istrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking, how about putting all log related packages into their own category? Personally I think unless there is a real problem that needs to be resolved, moving packages around should be avoided. We've

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: seeing a new trend of laziness developing.

2006-02-26 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:30:50 -0600 R Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ned Ludd wrote: 232 matches. http://tinyurl.com/pmrmx The vast majority of which have an explanation in the comment directly preceding. In which case it's a moment's effort to cut-n-paste the text into the

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-02-28 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:47:33 -0500 solar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forget where I read it but I thought that unicode lead to overflows and was considered a general security risk. I wish I knew where I read that but I'm unable to find it. Well, stuff I could find includes:

Re: [gentoo-dev] how to turn off hardened gcc flags reliably?

2006-03-02 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 00:54:25 + Duncan Coutts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 00:41 +, Roy Marples wrote: For the non technically minded folks whats the difference between -fno-stack-protector and -fno-stack-protector-all? [...] It was explained to me like this:

Re: [gentoo-dev] enable UTF8 per default?

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:58:03 +0100 Patrick Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During that discussion we realized that having utf-8 not enabled by default and no utf8 fonts available by default causes lots of recompilation and reconfiguration. Enabling the unicode useflag in the profiles should

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 03:31:34 +0100 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I don't know darcs at all in terms of use and feature, I would really suggest to _not_ use it. For a simple reason, actually: cvs has almost no cost added, as it's present on every major

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:46:58 + Duncan Coutts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 12:42 +0100, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: This is a valid issue, as ghc is only supplied upstream for linux (some older versions available in mingw32). I don't think this is right. All

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:37:45 + Duncan Coutts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 13:32 +0100, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:46:58 + Duncan Coutts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 12:42 +0100, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] Purpose of USE=doc

2006-04-26 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:03:00 +0200 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to see some clarification of intended doc use flag usage From what I've gleaned over time, USE=doc is supposed to enable docs that are one or more of: (1) large (2) take a significant amount of resource to build (3)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-27 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:29:32 -0400 Seemant Kulleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To that end, it's been brought up that perhaps the metadata.xml files are partly to blame, in that they imply that the package is maintained by a herd. There is not maintainer-team listed, just a herd. So, I would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-27 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:27:12 -0400 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 09:22 +0200, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: I must admit I've assumed that the herd entry in metadata.xml is a reasonable fall-back if the maintainer entry is missing or the listed maintainer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-28 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
OK; just to clarify my understanding, and perhaps for anyone else watching who saw things as muddled as I did: 1) A herd is a group of packages, no more, no less. A package must be a member of at least one herd (since the herd entry is mandatory in metadata.xml, and metadata.xml is mandatory).

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Thu, 04 May 2006 16:29:56 -0700 Michael Kirkland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This leads to people trying to maintain a frankenstinian /etc/portage/package.keywords file, constantly adding to it and never knowing when things can be removed from it. If you use specific versions in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages that need maintainers

2006-05-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Thu, 4 May 2006 21:20:48 -0500 spradlim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question that I havn't been able to find that is somewhat related to the following email. I know and understand Linux very well. I also know how ebuilds work. So how do I go about maintaining packages and getting

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Fri, 5 May 2006 13:20:09 +0200 Carsten Lohrke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 05 May 2006 08:32, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: If you use specific versions in the package.keywords file (i.e. do =category/package-version-revision ~arch instead of category/package ~arch, this doesn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Fri, 5 May 2006 16:38:57 +0200 Carsten Lohrke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 05 May 2006 15:23, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: I disagree. Your argument is for not using ~arch at all, rather than an argument against keeping control of what you have from ~arch. No. My argument

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X and hardened

2006-05-12 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Fri, 12 May 2006 10:49:22 +0200 Simon Strandman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed modular X on my server running hardened. X on a server? If it's just for the libs that's ok, but running the X server itself is risky on a server as it's huge and suid so flaws can easily gain root access.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X and hardened

2006-05-13 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Sat, 13 May 2006 11:32:49 +0200 Simon Strandman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) skrev: On Fri, 12 May 2006 10:49:22 +0200 Simon Strandman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed modular X on my server running hardened. X on a server? If it's just for the libs that's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Modular X and hardened

2006-05-13 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Sat, 13 May 2006 13:10:22 -0700 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ned Ludd wrote: This was handled in the 6.8.x series and got dropped for unknown reasons when the modular X porting started happening. Unless your dead set on modular X I'd stick with the 6.8.x series. We are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Modular X and hardened

2006-05-14 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Sat, 13 May 2006 23:04:10 -0700 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: Oh, OK, let's argue semantics. It's suggested by a hardened user on a bug the hardened team is CC'd on, but the team didn't say anything was wrong with the change. That's because

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Modular X and hardened

2006-05-14 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Sun, 14 May 2006 12:46:23 +0200 Harald van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea of filter-ldflags is a bad one, IMO. There are an infinite number of ways to enable a flag (for -z now: -Wl,-z,now; -Wl,-z -Wl,now; -Xlinker -z -Xlinker -now; -Wl,-O1,-z,now; ...). Even if you restrict

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [rfc] variable naming for marking binaries as QA ignorable

2006-03-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 19:56:41 -0500 Ned Ludd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 23:32 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: so we've found some cases where a package installs objects that either need to be ignored by some of the scanelf checks ... ... what this e-mail is about is

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [rfc] variable naming for marking binaries as QA ignorable

2006-03-06 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:46:25 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 05 March 2006 19:48, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: This could be done via the profiles, perhaps - package.qa, something like package.mask/use/keywords: i hate such things ... imo this information should

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [rfc] variable naming for marking binaries as QA ignorable

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 00:17:52 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how does the attached patch look ? it allows for regexes in the ignore list which is why i used gawk ;) Could we add something so that we can disable these ignore lists in the hardened profile? At least something like:

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Re: User created package lists

2006-03-21 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:50:00 -0600 MIkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Add the capability for emerge to take a category as an argument, # (cd ${PORTDIR_OVERLAY} emerge -pv category/*) Then the user can create overlays with their own category names and symlink in the package directories they want