Re: [gentoo-dev] gcc-3.3.5.20050110-r1 for stable

2005-04-10 Thread Spider
h* https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88596 //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] gcc-3.3.5.20050110-r1 for stable

2005-04-10 Thread Spider
On Sun, 2005-04-10 at 16:22 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sunday 10 April 2005 11:31 am, Spider wrote: > > A touch late, but this uncovered a bug in libtool. > > re-emerge libtool and it'll fix itself Yep, I know that. Unfortunately, thats -not- going to be a "

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Spider
gt; it. > > Are you gonna start a poll on the forums? *BANG* oops, sorry. Lots of us don't use forums or other web-based half-uis that do not support content delivery and control in local and orderly fashion :) //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Dev Vibhav Garg (vgarg)

2005-04-18 Thread Spider
> He's been quite busy with J2EE and has 5 year consultancy track in > that technology. I feel for you. What do you do to recover? ;) > > Please welcome him as usual > Sure, the goats are that way *points to the vend-a-goat machine*. Sacrifices will commence shortly.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replace 'sash' with 'busybox' as our static rescue shell

2005-04-22 Thread Spider
less you have another editor as binary built into your shell, don't remove ed. A "trusted" editor is good. Sash is seldom used for "My system is haxxored" however its often used for "I fucked up glibc" and an editor is a handy thing, even if its as obscure as "

Re: [gentoo-dev] cleaning out 'bc' and 'ed' from system

2005-04-22 Thread Spider
e foot because of this. btw, both ed and bc is used in a lot of configure scripts, more than I care to remember ( I believe that things like enlightenment had calls to it...) so replacing this involves you doing a very massive regression test. Have fun. //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured

[gentoo-dev] Reverse dependency Scanning

2005-04-23 Thread Spider
ice list of packages that are actually used. So, I know it isn't foolproof, don't expect it to be. However, feedback would be nice, patches and so on. oh, where it lives? cvs : gentoo/users/spider/depreverse , expects to be ran from the current directory as it calls "

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reverse dependency Scanning

2005-04-23 Thread Spider
On Sat, 2005-04-23 at 14:21 +0200, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:15:32 +0200 > Spider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So, I know it isn't foolproof, don't expect it to be. However, > > feedback would be nice, patches and so on.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reverse dependency Scanning

2005-04-25 Thread Spider
greni.free.fr/gentoo/galeon.ps > > I'm not sure it's really useful, but oh well, it was worth writing > to learn dot's very basics :) Hehe, Rather cool, but the diagram is a bit hard to get an overview of. Though, I recognise the reason for doing it :) Thanks , Spider

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Spider
dd a logrotate config file to sys-power/acpid. > > Sincerely, > Brix -1 from me.. Make it default to on and install the files. its minimal overhead and can be toggled to be disabled with the "minimal" USE flag, Just avoiding pollution... //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured

Re: [gentoo-dev] Welcome Back, Cummings

2005-11-07 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 11:11 -0500, Seemant Kulleen wrote: > > So, please join me in a hearty Welcome Back for Michael Cummings. Yey! Great news :) //Spider , Who's too fed up with bureaucrazy to willingly submit himself to devrel. :-) -- begin .signature Tortured users /

Re: [gentoo-dev] punting the use.defaults feature

2005-11-20 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
e parts that the maintainers consider "good and reasonable" I know one place where I'd love to see this is fex. the various multimedia backends, openssl/gnutls among other such settings. //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-27 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
s-apps/portage/portage-2.0.53_rc7-prepstrip.patch > It requires you merge pax-utils for the scanelf util. > I would certainly like this as on by default, and controlled via INSTALL_MASK rather than a FEATURE. (Although I'd have to rebuild my complete system, since I do have it all with debu

[gentoo-dev] glibc & binutils -aware hackers wanted for questions ;)

2005-11-28 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
core systems. So, now I'm just asking for comments and/or discussion here.. would it be worth the time spent on this? http://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2005-10/msg00436.html //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more inform

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc & binutils -aware hackers wanted for questions ;)

2005-11-28 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
performance test setup here. If anyone has ideas for a decent test, I'd be happy. As for KDE, I think modern Gnome would benefit as well, since it has been heavily refactioned into libraries these days. //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Arti

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc & binutils -aware hackers wanted for questions ;)

2005-11-30 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 02:29 +0100, Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: > Hello, > I've been looking some at Michael Meeks -Bdirect patches, and the > possible performance boost they could give. > > The good parts here is that it seems to be far less intrusive for the > running

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] iconv and libintl virtuals

2005-12-11 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
running out of sync. This situation may be fixed now, but I'm more likely to believe that it just hasn't cropped up "Just yet" ( yep, I'm cynical here ) //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] iconv and libintl virtuals

2005-12-11 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 20:40 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Sunday 11 December 2005 19:29, Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: > > How will you deal with the packages that build against glibc iconv but > > not against the separated? > I'll patch them, if the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Viability of other SCM/version control systems for big repo's

2005-12-23 Thread Spider (DmD Lj)
l, but still) Mercurial, last I checked, was still rather fragile. Fast, decent, but fragile. :( svn I haven't tried, actually. Although in current terms, it seems to be a good replacement from how we work and what we do with things. //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-23 Thread Spider (DmD Lj)
we've been let down on it in the past, had it postponed to "the great redesign" ( project baghira, I think, too) And so on. Suffice to say, we're still waiting, but more content to hack around and break the build process theese days. (finally we can kill use_with !! )

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-30 Thread Spider (DmD Lj)
On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 10:35 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Friday 30 December 2005 01:35, Spider (DmD Lj) wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 19:06 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:53:14 +0100 Carsten Lohrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-30 Thread Spider (DmD Lj)
On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 21:49 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Friday 30 December 2005 21:17, Spider (DmD Lj) wrote: > > > > No, what you suggested was that for the case of when you depend on a > > SLOT, then the tree is flattened. My point was for the generic case : >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-30 Thread Spider (DmD Lj)
riteria). And, I'm not sure just how this mangling would look when expanded in the installed package database, can you elaborate a bit? //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: shoving utils from xpdf to poppler...

2006-01-02 Thread Spider (DmD Lj)
poppler blocks against -older- versions of xpdf, not against "current" ones, so start by removing xpdf, upgrading poppler, then re-install xpdf and you should be fine. //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information.

Re: [gentoo-dev] modular X - 7.0 RC1

2005-10-20 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
ilds against the current -stable- tree or the current ~ tree for various architectures? //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
c without C++ support > -mike Yes. And that is as intended with -*. Really, Don't refuse an idea because this. Having IUSE="cxx" USE="-*" and getting -cxx is expected behaviour. Not having a C++ compiler might be just exactly what they want, right? :) //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
Welcome aboard, We don't bite.. Much. (usually we only stab people, and that's mostly due to bad puns like those of lu_zero ;) //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end signature.asc Description:

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 16:12 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Monday 24 October 2005 15:03, Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: > > (usually we only stab people, and that's mostly due to bad puns like > > those of lu_zero ;) > Strange that I'm still arou

[gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies.

2005-10-24 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
't be broken for use in compile. Runtime isn't only executables. //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies.

2005-10-24 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
aders in turn, in order to get the dependencies right. The other is to fix the level closest to the breakage by making sure that headers are treated like libraries. Hope I'm making this clear enough, its fairly early. //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies.

2005-10-24 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 22:51 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: > | Why? Because they just install the hard RDEPEND, so if you have a system > | installed from binaries, you get working linking

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuilds for packages without a homepage?

2005-10-25 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
or h in HOMEPAGE ; do firefox "$h" & ; > done , which works just fine in multiple and blank homepage cases... I agree with Ciaran here. exporting the explicitly empty variable is a good thing. If, however the variable is unset completely, then we have an issue of laziness on