Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-30 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 30/11/2008 в 16:59 -0600, Ryan Hill пишет: > On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:13:34 -0500 > Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [proposal] > I know it's not directly related to stabilization, but lately people > have been removing the only keyworded package for the mips arch, under > the excus

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:13:34 -0500 Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Instead of addressing archs as being slackers or not, this addresses > it as a more granular layer of looking at ebuilds. Thanks to Richard > Freeman for the initial proposal that I based this off of. Please > give me fe

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:04:33 -0500 Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Honestly, I don't want to be a dick to the arch teams. I really > don't. But I *also* don't want them (or policy) to be a dick to me. > That's my whole point; that requirement of never removing the last > stable ebu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-18 Thread Daniel Gryniewicz
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 15:18 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:57:23 -0500 > Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 19:08 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > > > On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:10:57 -0500 > > > Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:57:23 -0500 Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 19:08 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:10:57 -0500 > > Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 18:38 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-18 Thread Daniel Gryniewicz
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 17:50 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:57:23 -0500 > Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is not about arches just being slackers. This is about arches > > denying stable (or even ~) for some reason. If I cannot drop an old > > version

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-18 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:57:23 -0500 Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is not about arches just being slackers. This is about arches > denying stable (or even ~) for some reason. If I cannot drop an old > version of something just because the new version doesn't (and won't) > work

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-18 Thread Daniel Gryniewicz
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 19:08 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:10:57 -0500 > Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 18:38 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > > > > > > > > > The maintainer MUST NOT NEVER EVER NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT remove the > > > latest st

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-17 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:10:57 -0500 Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 18:38 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > > > > > The maintainer MUST NOT NEVER EVER NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT remove the > > latest stable ebuild of an arch without the approval of the arch > > team or he

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-17 Thread Duncan
Tobias Scherbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:08:39 +0100: > Process might be as easy > as CC'ing a arch-tinderbox on a bug, a script does parse the bug number > out of the mail being sent out and using gatt it catches the ebuild to > test,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-17 Thread Daniel Gryniewicz
On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 18:38 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > The maintainer MUST NOT NEVER EVER NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT remove the > latest stable ebuild of an arch without the approval of the arch team or > he/she will be fed to the Galrog. As long as the maintainer can pass off the maintenance of the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-16 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:13:34 -0500 Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If an ebuild meets the time criteria above, and there are no > technical issues preventing stabilization, then the maintainer MAY [...] mark that ebuild as stable on every keyworded arch (that has a stable keyword). > If

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Duncan
Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:12:41 +0100: > You did it again in the "IOW" quotation above explaining it as a "triple > emphasis" instead of what it was intended to denote, namely as a few > possible examples of the meaning of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:26:51 + (UTC) Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Words > > like "production", "critical" and "important" can be applied as > > easily to the state of a company's or nation's system as to a > > single person's. > Yes, but it's a relative thing. >huge snip< That's wha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 17:26 +, Duncan wrote: > Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 11 > Nov 2008 17:24:50 +0100: > > > Words > > like "production", "critical" and "important" can be applied as easily > > to the state of a company's or nation

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Duncan
Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:24:50 +0100: > Words > like "production", "critical" and "important" can be applied as easily > to the state of a company's or nation's system as to a single person's. Yes, but it's a relative th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:06:02 + (UTC) Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's a "production, critical, important" system, then what is one > doing installing updates on it directly without verifying them on a > generally identical test system first? Now you're ridiculing the idea of havi

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Duncan
Jose Luis Rivero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:18:34 +0100: > Mixing software branches is very easy in the Gentoo world but it has > some problems. Are you going to install in your stable (production, > critial, important,...) system a combi