Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-30 Thread Kent Fredric
On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 10:52:35 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > If not, I would rather see you pick one of the two options above. -r1 bump all existing consumers of that eclass first? :) pgpOohqnJQZK6.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-30 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 03:49:32AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 09:26:09 -0500 > William Hubbs wrote: > > > I don't know portage internals, so I have no idea what the deal with > > this is or how to fix it. > > > > Did you report it to the portage team? > > Report what? >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-30 Thread Kent Fredric
On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 09:26:09 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > I don't know portage internals, so I have no idea what the deal with > this is or how to fix it. > > Did you report it to the portage team? Report what? 1. Didn't have access to the box 2. No way to even conceive of producing enough

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-30 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 09:26:09AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > There's no way to know whether removing virtual/rust will cause these > kinds of issues, so I'm still not convinced that we shouldn't remove it. Sorry, I meant virtual/cargo here. William signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-30 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 09:19:14PM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 12:27:49 -0500 > William Hubbs wrote: > > > No, I'm just saying this: > > > > We don't know that there is a portage bug from what I'm reading in this > > thread. We are talking about possible bugs, but a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-30 Thread Kent Fredric
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 12:27:49 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > No, I'm just saying this: > > We don't know that there is a portage bug from what I'm reading in this > thread. We are talking about possible bugs, but a possible bug isn't a bug. > If there is an issue cite it otherwise move on. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-29 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 05:48:14PM +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 2019-10-28 at 10:34 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:18:17AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: > > > On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 12:05:02 -0500 > > > William Hubbs wrote: > > > > > > > If a build dep of something

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-29 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 2019-10-28 at 10:34 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:18:17AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 12:05:02 -0500 > > William Hubbs wrote: > > > > > If a build dep of something changes, the correct response with > > > --with-bdeps=y is to rebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-29 Thread Kent Fredric
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 10:34:40 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > Let's go ahead and do the change and file bugs against portage if there > are issues. Any time I find something that I'd imagine portage could fix, I file a bug. But I already have so many open bugs for things portage does wrong that

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-28 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:18:17AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 12:05:02 -0500 > William Hubbs wrote: > > > If a build dep of something changes, the correct response with > > --with-bdeps=y is to rebuild everything that depends on the changed dep. > > Unfortunately, my

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 12:05:02 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > If a build dep of something changes, the correct response with > --with-bdeps=y is to rebuild everything that depends on the changed dep. Unfortunately, my learned experience of portage is the "correct response" is not something portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 08:36:47PM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 18:55:11 -0500 > William Hubbs wrote: > > > Sure, but rebuild changes are exactly what you would want. that's how > > software written in go gets rebuilt for example, which is exactly what > > you want when go

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-27 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 01:42:48 + Michael Everitt wrote: > > I agree that some rebuilds might be unnecessary, but if you don't like > > compiling/building software Gentoo isn't for you. > > > > William > > > There's a subtle difference between compiling for compiling's sake, and > compiling

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 18:55:11 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > Sure, but rebuild changes are exactly what you would want. that's how > software written in go gets rebuilt for example, which is exactly what > you want when go is upgraded. > > I agree that some rebuilds might be unnecessary, but if

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-26 Thread Michael Everitt
On 27/10/19 00:55, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 12:14:59AM +0100, Michael Everitt wrote: >> On 26/10/19 23:35, William Hubbs wrote: >>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:17:18AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: On Sat, 2019-10-26 at 11:14 +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Sat, Oct

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-26 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 12:14:59AM +0100, Michael Everitt wrote: > On 26/10/19 23:35, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:17:18AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > >> On Sat, 2019-10-26 at 11:14 +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > >>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 05:59 Kent Fredric wrote: > >>> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-26 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:17:18AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sat, 2019-10-26 at 11:14 +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 05:59 Kent Fredric wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:03:39 -0700 > > > Georgy Yakovlev wrote: > > > > > > > not used anymore > > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-26 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 2019-10-26 at 11:14 +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 05:59 Kent Fredric wrote: > > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:03:39 -0700 > > Georgy Yakovlev wrote: > > > > > not used anymore > > > > > > Closes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/695698 > > > Signed-off-by: Georgy Yakovlev >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-26 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 05:59 Kent Fredric wrote: > On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:03:39 -0700 > Georgy Yakovlev wrote: > > > not used anymore > > > > Closes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/695698 > > Signed-off-by: Georgy Yakovlev > > > Its likely this removal will cause the same kinds of problems faced by >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-26 Thread Kent Fredric
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 08:34:50 +0200 Francesco Riosa wrote: > So basically the eclass should be bumped, with the old one deprecated? I don't think rev-bumping the eclass is a useful way to fix this either. It could work, but I suspect it just expands the problem slightly. pgp4WzprN2xLh.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-26 Thread Francesco Riosa
Il giorno sab 26 ott 2019 alle ore 06:24 Michael Everitt ha scritto: > On 26/10/19 04:59, Kent Fredric wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:03:39 -0700 > > Georgy Yakovlev wrote: > > > >> not used anymore > >> > >> Closes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/695698 > >> Signed-off-by: Georgy Yakovlev > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-25 Thread Michael Everitt
On 26/10/19 04:59, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:03:39 -0700 > Georgy Yakovlev wrote: > >> not used anymore >> >> Closes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/695698 >> Signed-off-by: Georgy Yakovlev > > Its likely this removal will cause the same kinds of problems faced by > the recent

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual

2019-10-25 Thread Kent Fredric
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:03:39 -0700 Georgy Yakovlev wrote: > not used anymore > > Closes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/695698 > Signed-off-by: Georgy Yakovlev Its likely this removal will cause the same kinds of problems faced by the recent virtual/pam removal, just its more insidious, as the