Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling branch strings
On Dec 11, 2007 9:11 AM, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:42:38 -0800 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You've made these assertions about confusion and breakage, and I > > would like to understand the reasoning behind them. > > [...] For my reasoning... just read Ciaran's reply ;-) -- Santiago M. Mola Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling branch strings
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:42:38 -0800 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You've made these assertions about confusion and breakage, and I > would like to understand the reasoning behind them. I don't > understand how it would be different than any other SLOT, because > they're already a string. USE_EXPAND doesn't allow for the > possibility of multiple SLOTs installed at once, which is a feature I > would like. Conceptually a branch is not a slot (nor is it a version). Reusing an existing package manager concept for a second, unrelated concept leads to excessively complicated handling rules and a general nasty mess. If there's desire for the package manager to be aware of branches, it should be a separate proposal using a concept specifically designed for that purpose. Branches exist without SCM, and SCM exists without branches, and neither have anything to do with slots or use flags. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling branch strings
On 10:34 Mon 10 Dec , Santiago M. Mola wrote:
> On Dec 10, 2007 10:21 AM, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 00:26 Mon 10 Dec , Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > > What I've got for my Xorg testing setup, is foo--rX, with a number
> > > of different -X values that I just select from via package.{un,}mask
> > > while testing - this saves altering everything else in the tree to pick
> > > some package that has a different name just to satisfy a branch (which
> > > also requires lots of ${MY_PN} mockery for some packages.
> > > You'd also need to put '!cat/pn-feat' in the base cat/pn package and
> > > vice-versa.
> >
> > While we're getting a bit off the original topic here, it occurred to me
> > that using SLOTs for this, in combination with various SLOT deps and
> > SLOT blockers, might work. Then one could use a search tool that would
> > display SLOTs to show you which branch you're getting.
> >
>
> Too tricky. It would confuse package managers and would break the
> meaning of SLOT. An use expanded SCM_BRANCH combined with use
> dependencies makes more sense and, hopefully, would be something
> manageable.
You've made these assertions about confusion and breakage, and I would
like to understand the reasoning behind them. I don't understand how it
would be different than any other SLOT, because they're already a
string. USE_EXPAND doesn't allow for the possibility of multiple SLOTs
installed at once, which is a feature I would like.
Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling branch strings
On Dec 10, 2007 10:21 AM, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 00:26 Mon 10 Dec , Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > What I've got for my Xorg testing setup, is foo--rX, with a number
> > of different -X values that I just select from via package.{un,}mask
> > while testing - this saves altering everything else in the tree to pick
> > some package that has a different name just to satisfy a branch (which
> > also requires lots of ${MY_PN} mockery for some packages.
> > You'd also need to put '!cat/pn-feat' in the base cat/pn package and
> > vice-versa.
>
> While we're getting a bit off the original topic here, it occurred to me
> that using SLOTs for this, in combination with various SLOT deps and
> SLOT blockers, might work. Then one could use a search tool that would
> display SLOTs to show you which branch you're getting.
>
Too tricky. It would confuse package managers and would break the
meaning of SLOT. An use expanded SCM_BRANCH combined with use
dependencies makes more sense and, hopefully, would be something
manageable.
Regards,
Santiago
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling branch strings
On 00:26 Mon 10 Dec , Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> What I've got for my Xorg testing setup, is foo--rX, with a number
> of different -X values that I just select from via package.{un,}mask
> while testing - this saves altering everything else in the tree to pick
> some package that has a different name just to satisfy a branch (which
> also requires lots of ${MY_PN} mockery for some packages.
> You'd also need to put '!cat/pn-feat' in the base cat/pn package and
> vice-versa.
While we're getting a bit off the original topic here, it occurred to me
that using SLOTs for this, in combination with various SLOT deps and
SLOT blockers, might work. Then one could use a search tool that would
display SLOTs to show you which branch you're getting.
Thanks,
Donnie
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