Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-19 Thread Michael Hammer
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Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-19 Thread Adam Stylinski
Well, it looks like we're not alone on this project. This email was just sent to me: Adam, I managed to track down someone who can probably help you with your ICC work, if you're nice to him. :) See the forwarded message: Have your friend contact bill dot hilliard at intel dot com. He's on

Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-18 Thread Adam Stylinski
I'm not suggesting that it be sold. Gentoo is non-profit anyway, the livecd could be available for download only. The binaries don't have to be licensed if you're not selling them, however the compiler does. This is where the non-commercial free license comes in (with a fetch restriction requiring

Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-18 Thread Doug Goldstein
Robert Bridge wrote: On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:34:11 +0900 Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Stylinski wrote: The intel C Compiler (icc) icc, xlc, llvm, sunstudio could be interesting fields of discovery. Which are the pitfalls of using icc? lu If I recall

Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-18 Thread Sébastien Fabbro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Apologies if you received this mail already, I'm having problems with my smtp. On Thursday July 17 Adam Stylinski wrote: The intel C Compiler (icc) has an ebuild for gentoo and the wiki has a script to integrate it with portage. This script works

Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-18 Thread Sébastien Fabbro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday July 17, Adam Stylinski wrote: Pro's: 1.) Bloody fast machine code. Intel obfuscates their architecture but they give back to the community as much as possible to make their hardware marketable toward the open source sysadmin,

Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-18 Thread Robert Bridge
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:16:18 +0100 Sébastien Fabbro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was some attempts a few years ago for rolling up a full Gentoo with icc, but it hit several problems if I recall. Now both icc and gcc have improved since then. Including needing package specific CFLAGS because

Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-18 Thread Adam Stylinski
Also, in the academic environment the grad student/university can pay for the license that the student slipstreams into their gentoo installation, making it 100% legal depending on how many seats he or she buys. -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-17 Thread Luca Barbato
Adam Stylinski wrote: The intel C Compiler (icc) icc, xlc, llvm, sunstudio could be interesting fields of discovery. Which are the pitfalls of using icc? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing

Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-17 Thread Robert Bridge
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:34:11 +0900 Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Stylinski wrote: The intel C Compiler (icc) icc, xlc, llvm, sunstudio could be interesting fields of discovery. Which are the pitfalls of using icc? lu If I recall correctly, needing some packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-17 Thread Adam Stylinski
There are very few pitfalls, none of which I see as real killers. These include: 1.) Closed source compiler: Yes this stands against what we believe, and yes by closing their source they're protecting the trade secrets of their architecture. It also could be more difficult to debug, although

Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-17 Thread Adam Stylinski
There is some record of a version of the kernel being compiled with some patches involved. It's probably possible, I'd imagine. Though, this is not necessary for the first builds. -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-17 Thread Adam Stylinski
Oh yes, and we can also take advantage of the free support that intel offers for all users: http://www.intel.com/support/performancetools/sb/CS-017156.htm Not to mention they have forums filled with intel developers/experts which we can get involved. I'm sure intel would benefit from this and

Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 14:23 Thu 17 Jul , Adam Stylinski wrote: The intel C Compiler (icc) has an ebuild for gentoo and the wiki has a script to integrate it with portage. This script works will in terms of building binaries, however when mixed with gcc environments there are massive linking issues. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 23:24 Thu 17 Jul , Adam Stylinski wrote: There are very few pitfalls, none of which I see as real killers. These include: 1.) Closed source compiler: Yes this stands against what we believe, and yes by closing their source they're protecting the trade secrets of their