Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News Item v2: Portage rsync tree verification unstable

[Zac Medico]

On 03/11/2018 09:58 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> On 12/03/18 04:53, Duncan wrote:
>> Zac Medico posted on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 19:57:31 -0700 as excerpted:
>>
>>> I really don't want to spend a lot of time making revisions, and I think
>>> "unstable" communicates well enough in this case.
>> Very well then.  With robbat2's already accepted first paragraph changes 
>> it's acceptable as-is.
>>
>> Thanks.  You put an awful lot of work into portage, and I'm sure I'm not 
>> the only one who's thankful there's a steady hand at the portage wheel, 
>> even if it doesn't always come thru.  Your efforts certainly make the 
>> gentoo experience a better one! =:^)
>>
> +1 to that .. particularly through choppy waters lately .. keep up the
> good work!

You're very welcome. Thanks for your praise!
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Thanks,
Zac



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News Item v2: Portage rsync tree verification unstable

[M. J. Everitt]

On 12/03/18 04:53, Duncan wrote:
> Zac Medico posted on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 19:57:31 -0700 as excerpted:
>
>> I really don't want to spend a lot of time making revisions, and I think
>> "unstable" communicates well enough in this case.
> Very well then.  With robbat2's already accepted first paragraph changes 
> it's acceptable as-is.
>
> Thanks.  You put an awful lot of work into portage, and I'm sure I'm not 
> the only one who's thankful there's a steady hand at the portage wheel, 
> even if it doesn't always come thru.  Your efforts certainly make the 
> gentoo experience a better one! =:^)
>
+1 to that .. particularly through choppy waters lately .. keep up the
good work!



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News Item v2: Portage rsync tree verification unstable

[Zac Medico]

On 03/10/2018 05:38 PM, Duncan wrote:
> Zac Medico posted on Sat, 10 Mar 2018 15:16:29 -0800 as excerpted:
> 
>> Changes:
>>   * First paragraph rewritten by Robin Johnson 
>>   * Fixes spelling of 'following' reported by Michael Everitt
>>
>>
>> Title: Portage rsync tree verification unstable
>> Author: Zac Medico 
>> Posted: 2018-03-13
>> Revision: 1
>> News-Item-Format: 2.0
>> Display-If-Installed: sys-apps/portage
>>
>> Portage rsync tree verification is being temporarily turned off by
>> default, starting with sys-apps/portage-2.3.24. This permits
>> stabilization of sys-apps/portage-2.3.24 while still working on bugs
>> relating to tree verification [1]: deadlocks [2] & key fetching [3].
> 
>> [...]
> 
> With robbat2's first paragraph rewrite the effect isn't quite as bad
> as that of the first draft, but the title still refers to "unstable",
> which in addition to the intended package-stability meaning, has a
> number of more severe and thus unnecessarily alarming meanings not
> intended here.
> 
> FWIW, being security minded and knowing verification related to
> security, my own first thought was an app instability due to a
> potentially exploitable buffer-overflow... in code dealing with
> verification and thus potentially remotely triggerable during
> verification itself, definitely more alarming than intended!
> 
> Thankfully robbat2's rewrite clarifies in the body now, but
> I still think the title remains overly alarming.
> 
> Maybe "... remains unstable" or "not yet stable", as in:

Well, "unstable" sounds alarming when used to describe a person's
emotional state, but it then context of software I think it's less
alarming. I've found some discussion here:

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/8351/what-s-the-etymology-of-the-word-unstable-in-the-context-of-software

> Title: Portage rsync tree verification not yet stable
> 
> Or better, refer to the FEATURE flag "rsync-verify" in the title,
> so it's clear it's not a portage/emerge-executable instability,
> and clarify that it's the stable keyword, something like this
> (but might be too long, do those news item short title limits
> still apply?):
> 
> Title: Portage rsync-verify feature not yet stable-keyworded
> 
> Perhaps omit the -keyworded if that's too long:
> 
> Title: Portage rsync-verify feature not yet stable
> 
> Feel free to revise further...

I really don't want to spend a lot of time making revisions, and I think
"unstable" communicates well enough in this case.
-- 
Thanks,
Zac



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