On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 16/01/13 09:55 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
SUBSYSTEM==tty, DRIVERS==pl2303, KERNELS==4-1:1.0,
KERNEL==ttyUSB*, SYMLINK=mythser/rca1
I'm not sure if rules are additive - if these symlinks would show
up in addition to
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:07:42AM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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On 18/01/13 09:54 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 08:33:13AM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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On 18/01/13
2013/1/19 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:07:42AM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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On 18/01/13 09:54 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 08:33:13AM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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Il 09/01/2013 23:13, William Hubbs ha scritto:
All,
as you probably know by now, udev-197 has hit the tree.
This new version implements a new feature called predictable network
interface names [1], which I have currently turned off for live systems,
because it
will require migration on the
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On 18/01/13 07:24 AM, viv...@gmail.com wrote:
Since for servers predictable names are useful and for desktop
(which usually have only one ethernet that never change) Is it
possible to set desktop profiles to still use ethX, and base
profile to
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 08:33:13AM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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On 18/01/13 07:24 AM, viv...@gmail.com wrote:
Since for servers predictable names are useful and for desktop
(which usually have only one ethernet that never change) Is it
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On 18/01/13 09:54 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 08:33:13AM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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On 18/01/13 07:24 AM, viv...@gmail.com wrote:
Since for servers predictable names are
On 17/01/13 04:49, Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 06:36:59AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote:
Rich Freeman wrote:
Not that anybody is taking requests, but it would be really handy
if serial ports were deterministically
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On 16/01/13 09:55 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
SUBSYSTEM==tty, DRIVERS==pl2303, KERNELS==4-1:1.0,
KERNEL==ttyUSB*, SYMLINK=mythser/rca1
I'm not sure if rules are additive - if these symlinks would show
up in addition to whatever other ones are
Tobias Klausmann wrote:
It has been rather nifty that if I walk up to a random machine
with exactly one NIC (that I've been asked to examine/fix), I
_know_ that there will be eth0 and only that.
Only as long as that system hasn't seen *another* NIC first, if it
has persistent interface name
Hi!
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013, Peter Stuge wrote:
Tobias Klausmann wrote:
It has been rather nifty that if I walk up to a random machine
with exactly one NIC (that I've been asked to examine/fix), I
_know_ that there will be eth0 and only that.
Only as long as that system hasn't seen
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 07:44:39PM +0100, Tobias Klausmann wrote:
Hi!
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013, Peter Stuge wrote:
Tobias Klausmann wrote:
It has been rather nifty that if I walk up to a random machine
with exactly one NIC (that I've been asked to examine/fix), I
_know_ that there will
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote:
Rich Freeman wrote:
Not that anybody is taking requests, but it would be really handy
if serial ports were deterministically labeled.
Does /dev/serial/* solve the problem?
I don't see this directory at all on my system.
Hi!
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Greg KH wrote:
So anyone who relies on network names right now to be deterministic, and
you have more than one network device in your system, should seriously
reconsider how they are naming their devices, as it will not work if you
only rely on the kernel.
You
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Tobias Klausmann klaus...@gentoo.org wrote:
Hi!
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Greg KH wrote:
So anyone who relies on network names right now to be deterministic, and
you have more than one network device in your system, should seriously
reconsider how they are naming
Il 16/01/2013 17:25, Mike Gilbert ha scritto:
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Tobias Klausmann klaus...@gentoo.org wrote:
Hi!
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Greg KH wrote:
So anyone who relies on network names right now to be deterministic, and
you have more than one network device in your system,
On 01/16/2013 05:25 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
It has been rather nifty that if I walk up to a random machine
with exactly one NIC (that I've been asked to examine/fix), I
_know_ that there will be eth0 and only that.
++
I would actually like to see iproute2 added to the system set.
++
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On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 06:36:59AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote:
Rich Freeman wrote:
Not that anybody is taking requests, but it would be really handy
if serial ports were deterministically labeled.
Does /dev/serial/*
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 06:36:59AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote:
Rich Freeman wrote:
Not that anybody is taking requests, but it would be really handy
if
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Hi all,
I respect both sides of the discussion, because:
a) I once set up an old P3-700 with 5+1 eth cards in 6 different
networks as (bridging)router and truly benefited from the ability to
change a broken NIC - which happened quite often due
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Hi,
This can have serious security implications [1]
For whom?
The often cited end user not running any network service, not even sshd?
Without firewalls, routing or dhcp_d_?
Some avahi-discovery woodoo stuff unaware of network topology at all?
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On 15/01/13 04:16 AM, Michael Weber wrote:
Hi,
This can have serious security implications [1]
For whom?
I think the idea there is that a user expects eth0 and eth1 to stay
the same, writes iptables rules on a per-interface basis to control
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On 15/01/13 03:42 AM, Michael Weber wrote:
e) Some distro/driver constellations (archlinux?) tend to name
their wireless lan eth*. [...] e) never happened to me.
It has for me, but not for a *LONG* time -- iirc it was prior to
2.6.16 and I
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 08:58:59AM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
On 15/01/13 04:16 AM, Michael Weber wrote:
Hi,
This can have serious security implications [1]
For whom?
I think the idea there is that a user expects eth0 and eth1 to stay
the same, writes iptables rules on a
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
And it's not udev that could rename the interface (hint, it wouldn't),
it's the kernel, it _never_ guarantees the same interface name every
time you boot. You might just be getting lucky, but really, PCI busses
can be
Rich Freeman wrote:
Not that anybody is taking requests, but it would be really handy
if serial ports were deterministically labeled.
Does /dev/serial/* solve the problem?
//Peter
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 11:33:42PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Daniel Campbell dlcampb...@gmx.com wrote:
So long as users retain the choice of keeping eth* or wlan*, no
complaints from me. I (and others) came to Gentoo to get away from
systemd, and this
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On 09/01/13 11:21 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
[1]
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames
So long as users retain the choice of keeping eth* or wlan*, no
complaints from me. I (and others) came to
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:13:10 -0600
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames
This seems like a good thing for some systems. Will there be a news
item when 197 (or greater) goes stable informing people that the
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 02:59:10PM -0800, Christopher Head wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:13:10 -0600
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames
This seems like a good thing for some systems. Will there be a
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 18:13:21 -0600
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
There is a way for users to opt out if we default this to on, but I
think the new naming scheme has advantages over the traditional eth*
wlan* etc names.
I think it should be taken with a grain of salt. The page
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On 01/09/2013 04:13 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
All,
as you probably know by now, udev-197 has hit the tree.
This new version implements a new feature called predictable
network interface names [1], which I have currently turned off for
live
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Daniel Campbell dlcampb...@gmx.com wrote:
So long as users retain the choice of keeping eth* or wlan*, no
complaints from me. I (and others) came to Gentoo to get away from
systemd, and this smells of a systemd-ism. Will eudev be pursuing this
as well?
Keep in
On 01/09/2013 10:33 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Daniel Campbell dlcampb...@gmx.com wrote:
So long as users retain the choice of keeping eth* or wlan*, no
complaints from me. I (and others) came to Gentoo to get away from
systemd, and this smells of a systemd-ism.
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