Re: [gentoo-releng] Call for feature requests for 2008.0 - Universal-CD

2008-02-05 Thread Dale
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Hi. Peter Weber wrote: Anyone gave this any thought? There are still a LOT of dial-up users out here. People seem to forget that, especially the website with all the huge pages. My Space comes to mind on that. Even users with high-speed

Re: [gentoo-releng] Call for feature requests for 2008.0 - Universal-CD

2008-02-04 Thread Markus Hauschild
On Feb 4, 2008 10:26 PM, Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're always welcome to build your own media if you don't like what we put out. Keep in mind that we are *volunteers*. We like the LiveCD, because it's easier to build and test. Some people just like to stick with the stuff

Re: [gentoo-releng] Call for feature requests for 2008.0 - Universal-CD

2008-02-04 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Peter Weber wrote: Hello, I now that Chris Gianelloni loves his LiveCD an the GUI-Installer and I know that he don't like to accept changes he don't support personally. But I do that know, so please don't kill me: Gentoo should have again an Universal-CD again, because: * Support for

Re: [gentoo-releng] Call for feature requests for 2008.0 - Universal-CD

2008-02-04 Thread Randall D. Wald
I second this, in particular the part about including stage3 on the CD; I'm always annoyed when, after downloading and burning the LiveCD, I need to download the stage3, possibly from a laptop without working wireless. Sincerely, Randall Peter Weber wrote: Hello, I now that Chris Gianelloni

Re: [gentoo-releng] Call for feature requests for 2008.0 - Universal-CD

2008-02-04 Thread Markus Hauschild
On Feb 4, 2008 11:36 PM, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd love a minimal + stage3 + portage-snapshot + stuff you really need (kernel sources, grub, maybe a syslogger) You just described an Universal CD. What I described wouldn't necessarily be a 700MB media. Seems I have to

Re: [gentoo-releng] Call for feature requests for 2008.0 - Universal-CD

2008-02-04 Thread Peter Weber
Thanks for your answer. I respect this fully! I just thought that this was a good chance for starting a discussion. On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 16:18 -0600, Brent Baude wrote: Peter and company, It is important for you to understand that we, releng, are in the process of 2008.0 right now. As

Re: [gentoo-releng] Call for feature requests for 2008.0 - Universal-CD

2008-02-04 Thread Peter Weber
Anyone gave this any thought? There are still a LOT of dial-up users out here. People seem to forget that, especially the website with all the huge pages. My Space comes to mind on that. Even users with high-speed connections want to stay independent and free, relying on a

Re: [gentoo-releng] Call for feature requests for 2008.0 - Universal-CD

2008-02-04 Thread Markus Hauschild
On Feb 4, 2008 10:58 PM, Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That doesn't even make sense. A universal CD is nothing but a minimal plus some stuff. You can't merge them together, unless you're talking about getting rid of the minimal all together, and then that's even dumber. I'm

Re: [gentoo-releng] Call for feature requests for 2008.0 - Universal-CD

2008-02-04 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 22:33 +0100, Markus Hauschild wrote: That means less time taken and less stress for us. If you don't like it, become a dev and volunteer for release engineering, and build the universal CDs yourself. Copy n pasteing a config that would be the Universal CD is worth

Re: [gentoo-releng] Call for feature requests for 2008.0 - Universal-CD

2008-02-04 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 22:49 +0100, Markus Hauschild wrote: On Feb 4, 2008 10:47 PM, Peter Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The LiveDVD includes stages and a snapshot. Interesting and good, but the LiveDVD is, let us say the truth - overkill. A other good solution would be merging

Re: [gentoo-releng] Call for feature requests for 2008.0 - Universal-CD

2008-02-04 Thread Peter Weber
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 15:58 -0600, Andrew Gaffney wrote: That doesn't even make sense. A universal CD is nothing but a minimal plus some stuff. You can't merge them together, unless you're talking about getting rid of the minimal all together, and then that's even dumber. -- Andrew

Re: [gentoo-releng] Call for feature requests for 2008.0 - Universal-CD

2008-02-04 Thread Peter Weber
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 22:49 +0100, Markus Hauschild wrote: On Feb 4, 2008 10:47 PM, Peter Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The LiveDVD includes stages and a snapshot. Interesting and good, but the LiveDVD is, let us say the truth - overkill. A other good solution would be merging

Re: [gentoo-releng] Call for feature requests for 2008.0 - Universal-CD

2008-02-04 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 23:50 +0100, Peter Weber wrote: Hours for, mhhh, five lines of code? Five lines of code, gathering the distfiles together, and lots and lots of testing. Seriously, buddy. Do me a favor and quit responding. You've shown that you don't really have a clue what's involved in