Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Dale
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag, 24. November 2008 22:09:52 schrieb Dale: I wouldn't use XFS unless it was all that was left. I tried it once a while back and found out it does not like power failures at all. Each time I had a power failure, I had to reinstall from scratch.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Nicolas Sebrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 04:41:14PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: btrfs looks very promising. I hope it will become a good fs. Fast for everybody, stable, efficient. We will see. Until then I will stay with r4+compression. Well, it is

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it is under a restrictive license, so there is no chance that this filestem will become popular on many OS platforms. btrfs is under GPL... you can stop right here. Jörg thinks that the GPL is restrictive and the CPPL much more

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Daniel Troeder
Am Montag, den 24.11.2008, 16:12 +0200 schrieb GMail: On Monday 24 November 2008 08:28:33 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: @William: If one or more of the PVs is a Network Block Device, you're not bound to the local machine. You could also use iSCSI. On your client you'll get SCSI-device-nodes

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
»Q« [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, no one reading it would learn anything more than they could have by googling a little while. All the arguments about whether copyleft is more or less freedomish than non-copyleft are already out there for anyone who wants to read them. Speaking about the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 25 November 2008 11:07:26 Joerg Schilling wrote: It ZFS was under GPL, it did not appear on FreeBSD and Mac OS X. What I expect from a promising new filesystem is that is may be integrated in a large variety of Platforms. Note that I am a supporter of collaboration in OSS and that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 25 November 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: »Q« [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, no one reading it would learn anything more than they could have by googling a little while. All the arguments about whether copyleft is more or less freedomish than non-copyleft are already out there

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a rule of thumb: of you like to widely spread an implementation don't license it under GPL. Jörg or dual licence it. But Sun didn't dual licence their ZFS code either so ... The problem with dual licensing is that you cannot ensure that

Re: [gentoo-user] Wiress Question...

2008-11-25 Thread Florian Philipp
BRM schrieb: I have a Dell D600 Laptop that I've got Gentoo installed on. It pretty much uses Gentoo full-time now. (Yeah!) I very frequently use the Wireless with it, which works great for the most part. However, it seems that the connection drops every once in a while, and the system

[gentoo-user] Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again?

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again? On a similar note, what's the justification of having KDE4 in the same tree

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread sebasmagri
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 03:18:11PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again? On a

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 25 November 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again? /etc/portage/package.mask

[gentoo-user] synaptic touchpad stopped scrolling!

2008-11-25 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi, I can't live without my touchpad extentions (scrolling, tap to click, etc). All provided somehow by the synaptics driver, but I've never really looked into how. Recently I noticed it stopped working but I don't know what I've changed as I've been docked for so long with a usb mouse.

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 03:18:11PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Tuesday 25 November 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Zsitvai János
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you're saying I must spend 1 hour to mask all the stuff? (Not joking, the list is big, I have to do emerge -av world each time and see the package, mask it, emerge again, mask it, emerge again, mask it, ad

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Zsitvai János wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you're saying I must spend 1 hour to mask all the stuff? (Not joking, the list is big, I have to do emerge -av world each time and see the package, mask it, emerge again, mask it, emerge again,

Re: [gentoo-user] synaptic touchpad stopped scrolling!

2008-11-25 Thread Florian Philipp
Iain Buchanan schrieb: Hi, I can't live without my touchpad extentions (scrolling, tap to click, etc). All provided somehow by the synaptics driver, but I've never really looked into how. Recently I noticed it stopped working but I don't know what I've changed as I've been docked for so

Re: [gentoo-user] synaptic touchpad stopped scrolling!

2008-11-25 Thread Uwe
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:14:51 +0930 Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The xorg.0.log error is: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad can't grab event device, errno=16 [...] any suggestions? thanks, Am I right, if I'm assuming, you're using HAL? Maybe you could try this workaround from

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Arttu V.
On 11/25/08, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zsitvai János wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you're saying I must spend 1 hour to mask all the stuff? (Not joking, the list is big, I have to do emerge -av world each time and see

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Sebastián Magrí
El mar, 25-11-2008 a las 16:17 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras escribió: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 03:18:11PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Tuesday 25 November 2008, 15:54, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Zsitvai János wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you're saying I must spend 1 hour to mask all the stuff? (Not joking, the list is big, I have to do emerge -av world each time

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Zsitvai János
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: package.mask is a file here, not a directory. You could either tack the output to the end of your package.mask with , or rename the current package.mask, mkdir package.mask, and move it in there. Or just copypaste this

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
On November 25, 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again? 1st of all, I'm running 2.2.x versions of portage and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
On November 25, 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I didn't unmask nor keyword any *KDE4* stuff. Only KDE3. Previous portage was happy with that. The new portage is not. I have dozens of packages in package.keywords that look like this: kde-base/kdelibs in which case portage did exactly what

Re: [gentoo-user] synaptic touchpad stopped scrolling!

2008-11-25 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
Probably the new evdev-driver overrides synaptics. If you do not need evdev and can live with the normal drivers like kbd for keyboard and synaptics, you can try to disable it. I hope you don't consider this to be thread hijacking, but can you point me to a simple and high-level (but not

Re: [gentoo-user] synaptic touchpad stopped scrolling!

2008-11-25 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
My only input devices are a PS2 keyboard with standard Brazilian layout (with no foolish extra multimedia keys) and a PS2 mouse with two buttons and one scroll wheel that also works as a third button. Do I need/want evdev? I should put this in a more specific manner: would it be safe/wise to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Stroller
On 25 Nov 2008, at 14:17, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: ... I didn't unmask nor keyword any *KDE4* stuff. Only KDE3. I can't help wondering if that's your problem. You unmasked KDE on your own machine... now in the main tree KDE 3 is no longer masked, but KDE 4 is available (so your machine

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
On November 25, 2008, Stroller wrote: On 25 Nov 2008, at 14:17, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: ... I didn't unmask nor keyword any *KDE4* stuff. Only KDE3. I can't help wondering if that's your problem. You unmasked KDE on your own machine... now in the main tree KDE 3 is no longer masked, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Update the clock using internet servers: recommendations

2008-11-25 Thread damian
I agree. I been using ntp here and it works fine. If you need help configuring it, let me know. Off list if needed, just put Gentoo in the subject line. Ok, thanks Dale. But I can you tell me if there is any difference among ntp and htpdate?

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Arttu V. wrote: On 11/25/08, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zsitvai János wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you're saying I must spend 1 hour to mask all the stuff? (Not joking, the list is big, I have to do emerge -av world

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: On November 25, 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I didn't unmask nor keyword any *KDE4* stuff. Only KDE3. Previous portage was happy with that. The new portage is not. I have dozens of packages in package.keywords that look like this: kde-base/kdelibs in which case

Re: [gentoo-user] synaptic touchpad stopped scrolling!

2008-11-25 Thread Andrey Vul
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 08:44, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I can't live without my touchpad extentions (scrolling, tap to click, etc). All provided somehow by the synaptics driver, but I've never really looked into how. Recently I noticed it stopped working but I don't know

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag, 24. November 2008 22:09:52 schrieb Dale: I wouldn't use XFS unless it was all that was left. I tried it once a while back and found out it does not like power failures at all. Each time I had a

Re: [gentoo-user] synaptic touchpad stopped scrolling!

2008-11-25 Thread j . romildo
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:14:51PM +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi, I can't live without my touchpad extentions (scrolling, tap to click, etc). All provided somehow by the synaptics driver, but I've never really looked into how. Recently I noticed it stopped working but I don't know

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
I wouldn't use XFS unless it was all that was left. I tried it once a while back and found out it does not like power failures at all. Each time I had a power failure, I had to reinstall from scratch. Hmm, I use it because of its resistance to power failures. When was it that you had such

Re: [gentoo-user] Update the clock using internet servers: recommendations

2008-11-25 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 25. November 2008 16:38:00 schrieb damian: I agree. I been using ntp here and it works fine. If you need help configuring it, let me know. Off list if needed, just put Gentoo in the subject line. Ok, thanks Dale. But I can you tell me if there is any difference among ntp

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
Now, since I usually compile software in a tmpfs, I guess the filesystem makes nearly zero difference. Video encoding is obviously bound by CPU, cache and RAM speed, not filesystem. Web rendering is also hardly affected by filesystem . And launching programs means mostly reading files, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Update the clock using internet servers: recommendations

2008-11-25 Thread damian
So yes, there is a difference. With htpdate, you synchronize against a _web_ server. How do you know it has a stable time source? OTOH, with ntp you synchronize against a specialized network _time_ server which is usually equiped with an accurate time souce*), using a protocol that was

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 25 November 2008, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag, 24. November 2008 22:09:52 schrieb Dale: I wouldn't use XFS unless it was all that was left. I tried it once a while back and found out it

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 25 November 2008, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: I was able to recover much of the data with reiserfsck --rebuild-tree, but some of the files had part of their content replaced with a string of null bytes. I heard somewhere that reiserfs is infamous for replacing file content

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
reiserfs has barriers turned on by default - which makes it a bit slower but a lot safer for data. ext3 has them turned off by default - ext3 devs don't care about data - only speed. You turn on barriers, performance goes down by 30%. I read an article about that, and if I recall correctly the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 25 November 2008, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: Now, since I usually compile software in a tmpfs, I guess the filesystem makes nearly zero difference. Video encoding is obviously bound by CPU, cache and RAM speed, not filesystem. Web rendering is also hardly affected by

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread KH
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto schrieb: I have no expertise to decide on that matter, but the fact that pretty much every linux distribution chooses ext3 by default suggests it is the safest (at least for simple desktop/laptop usage), no? Most people and companies / organisations use M$

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 25 November 2008, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: reiserfs has barriers turned on by default - which makes it a bit slower but a lot safer for data. ext3 has them turned off by default - ext3 devs don't care about data - only speed. You turn on barriers, performance goes

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
[...] I have no expertise to decide on that matter, but the fact that pretty much every linux distribution chooses ext3 by default suggests it is the safest (at least for simple desktop/laptop usage), no? fedora turns on 4k stack - well knowing that it kills xfs. Do you want to rephrase

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 25 November 2008 19:57:19 Paul Hartman wrote: I have a similar story, but for me it was JFS instead of XFS. I will never, ever, ever use JFS for anything again. I had XFS on a file server RAID box with a failing power supply and it died over and over and the FS stayed functional, so

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 25 November 2008 20:37:13 Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: Now, since I usually compile software in a tmpfs, I guess the filesystem makes nearly zero difference. Video encoding is obviously bound by CPU, cache and RAM speed, not filesystem. Web rendering is also hardly affected

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 25 November 2008 21:24:48 Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: I have no expertise to decide on that matter, but the fact that pretty much every linux distribution chooses ext3 by default suggests it is the safest (at least for simple desktop/laptop usage), no? I don't think that

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 25 November 2008, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: so use whatever you want, get a nice cheap dlt from ebay and let a cronjob write to it. No 'lazy' problem. Very secure. I live in Brasil, and due to huge taxes, poor infrastructure and the currency exchange ratio, computer

[gentoo-user] Bug 246672 ATI-DRIVERS

2008-11-25 Thread James
Hello, One of my (ati) systems has been screwed up a few days now because of bug 246672. Long story short, I have no ati-drivers installed and when I try to emerge it, I get: Cannot write to '/usr/lib32/opengl/ati/extensions' Please check permissions and directories for broken symlinks

Re: [gentoo-user] Update the clock using internet servers: recommendations

2008-11-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 25 November 2008 20:40:52 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: So yes, there is a difference. With htpdate, you synchronize against a _web_ server. How do you know it has a stable time source? OTOH, with ntp you synchronize against a specialized network _time_ server which is usually equiped with

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread James
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto please.no.spam.here at gmail.com writes: But anyway, I know I must make backups, but I still want a robust filesystem with good software support (such as data recovery utilities). Could you give me your suggestion for the safest filesystem for a desktop user that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Backups. get a usb stick and manually copy your stuff to it, periodically. Where do you get these 1 TB USB sticks? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-user] synaptic touchpad stopped scrolling!

2008-11-25 Thread Florian Philipp
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto schrieb: My only input devices are a PS2 keyboard with standard Brazilian layout (with no foolish extra multimedia keys) and a PS2 mouse with two buttons and one scroll wheel that also works as a third button. Do I need/want evdev? I should put this in a more

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 25 November 2008 23:15:27 Joerg Schilling wrote: James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Backups. get a usb stick and manually copy your stuff to it, periodically. Where do you get these 1 TB USB sticks? To be fair, he was responding to a parent that asked about backing up 3.8G of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 25 November 2008 23:15:27 Joerg Schilling wrote: James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Backups. get a usb stick and manually copy your stuff to it, periodically. Where do you get these 1 TB USB sticks? To be fair, he was responding to a

Re: [gentoo-user] Bug 246672 ATI-DRIVERS

2008-11-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 25 November 2008, James wrote: Hello, One of my (ati) systems has been screwed up a few days now because of bug 246672. Long story short, I have no ati-drivers installed and when I try to emerge it, I get: Cannot write to '/usr/lib32/opengl/ati/extensions' Please check

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Mike Williams
On Tuesday 25 November 2008 13:08:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again? The KDE4 ebuilds need EAPI 2 support in

Re: [gentoo-user] Bug 246672 ATI-DRIVERS

2008-11-25 Thread Rodolphe Rocca
James wrote: Hello, One of my (ati) systems has been screwed up a few days now because of bug 246672. Long story short, I have no ati-drivers installed and when I try to emerge it, I get: Cannot write to '/usr/lib32/opengl/ati/extensions' Please check permissions and directories for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 25 November 2008 23:43:34 Joerg Schilling wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I'm very interested in seeing where Intel go with their new SSDs. Two weeks ago, I did some tests with a SSD (ZFS and UFS) and it is really promising. That's what Linux said on

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread William Kenworthy
On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 17:24 -0200, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: ... but the fact that pretty much every linux distribution chooses ext3 by default suggests it is the safest (at least for simple desktop/laptop usage), no? ... No, for me ext2 = continual lost data issues from even the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I need to investigate this deeper and do a write-up for work. I have a FreeBSD-7 deployment system (nothing for OpenSolaris) so I'll use that. Any comment on ZFS performace/stability on FreeBSD? Up to a year ago, they found a star bug every

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Backups. get a usb stick and manually copy your stuff to it, periodically. Where do you get these 1 TB USB sticks? You are seeing from the perspective of a sysadmin. He was replying to

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
I ran ext3 on a dirvish backup server - lasted two days, resierfs is still going after a couple of years. dirvish REALLY hammers a file system. Participating in a few of these discussions over the years has brought home to me that YMMV really does apply to filesystems. Your usage, data

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread W.Kenworthy
... I have not dived in the Linux developers x Hans Reiser battle, so I don't know which side is right and which side is guilty, but think that either A) reiserfs is a good filesystem, but the battle between Hans Reiser and Linux developers caused people to dislike reiserfs for non-technical

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 26 November 2008, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: I ran ext3 on a dirvish backup server - lasted two days, resierfs is still going after a couple of years. dirvish REALLY hammers a file system. Participating in a few of these discussions over the years has brought home

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Mike Williams wrote: On Tuesday 25 November 2008 13:08:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again? The KDE4 ebuilds

[gentoo-user] Re: Bug 246672 ATI-DRIVERS

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
James wrote: Hello, One of my (ati) systems has been screwed up a few days now because of bug 246672. Long story short, I have no ati-drivers installed and when I try to emerge it, I get: Cannot write to '/usr/lib32/opengl/ati/extensions' Please check permissions and directories for broken

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] synaptic touchpad stopped scrolling!

2008-11-25 Thread Iain Buchanan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:14:51PM +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi, I can't live without my touchpad extentions (scrolling, tap to click, etc). All provided somehow by the synaptics driver, but I've never really looked into how. Recently I noticed it stopped working

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Philip Webb
081126 W.Kenworthy wrote: A) reiserfs is a good filesystem, but the battle between Hans Reiser and Linux developers caused people to dislike reiserfs for non-technical reasons. A is the answer. Hans Reiser is by all accounts a brilliant, eccentric but deeply flawed individual. He did not

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Dale
Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: On November 25, 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again? 1st of all, I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Update the clock using internet servers: recommendations

2008-11-25 Thread Dale
damian wrote: I agree. I been using ntp here and it works fine. If you need help configuring it, let me know. Off list if needed, just put Gentoo in the subject line. Ok, thanks Dale. But I can you tell me if there is any difference among ntp and htpdate? This is the first

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag, 24. November 2008 22:09:52 schrieb Dale: I wouldn't use XFS unless it was all that was left. I tried it once a while back and found out it does not like

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems

2008-11-25 Thread Dale
W.Kenworthy wrote: ... I have not dived in the Linux developers x Hans Reiser battle, so I don't know which side is right and which side is guilty, but think that either A) reiserfs is a good filesystem, but the battle between Hans Reiser and Linux developers caused people to dislike

[gentoo-user] reverse dependencies

2008-11-25 Thread Andrey Vul
How do I get the reverse dependencies of an ebuild? I need to know which packages *explicity* depend on gentoo-headers as I have custom headers which conflict with 2.6.27 mainline. -- Andrey Vul A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a

Re: [gentoo-user] reverse dependencies

2008-11-25 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Is this question now asked once a week? What is also annoying is that people do no own research before posting to mailing lists. If you had googled it you would have recognized a few threads _from this list_ discussing this in the not to distant past.

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Dale wrote: Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: On November 25, 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again? 1st of all,