On Wednesday 08 September 2010 23:27:52 Daniel Troeder wrote:
On 09/08/2010 05:27 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 17:14:13 Jonathan wrote:
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 22:49:37 +0200
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
We go in circles here. NNTP is be
1) I thought of that, but what password does Portage give it (if any)?
If you su from root it wont ask for a password! But you'll have to make sure
the ftp has a real shell. It may have say /bin/false for security reasons.
In the short term changing it to bash is fine.
If I change it, will it
xaralx development is staled afaik. There was a debate between in
house developers and community on mailing list last time i checked
mainly because of the unreleased code of their rendering engine.
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 8:49 AM, András Csányi sayusi.a...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
Does anybody
* gcc covers the linker
The 'gcc' command is a wrapper for several toolchain commands,
from the actual compilers and assemblers down to linker.
Yes, it's debatable whether that's really the recommended way (tm),
but obviously it seems to be quite comfortable.
Somehow I don't really like
Apparently, though unproven, at 02:56 on Thursday 09 September 2010, Enrico
Weigelt did opine thusly:
* Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
True. But FreeBSD isn't that popular like Windows, Mac or Linux.
So you don't work at a Tier 1 ISP then?
FreeBSD rules that space. I
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:18 on Thursday 09 September 2010, dhk did
opine thusly:
Well I deleted /usr/lib32/qt4/libQtOpenGL.so.4.6.2 and ran
revdep-rebuild and got the following
. . .
* Checking dynamic linking consistency
[ 39% ] * broken
When you're going into the autotools hell. Also completely
obsoleted before it even came into existence. A set of well-
designed shell functions could do the job *much* better.
While porting to cygwin I can be happy when they use it. For my first
impression those libraries are more easy to
I still try to understand the relation of shared libraries and dynamic
libraries. I read that dynamic libraries are linked at runtime. I also
read, that you can dynamically link againgst a shared as well as
against a normal library.
Pardon me, but in my opinion if you're asking this kind of
My beef with portage in my specific production setup is the amount of work it
takes my guys to keep everything up to date. We don't have 150 identical
servers in a farm (I'd love that and would switch to Gentoo immediately if it
were). I have 130 completely different configs and uses for those
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:50 on Thursday 09 September 2010, Al did
opine thusly:
My beef with portage in my specific production setup is the amount of
work it takes my guys to keep everything up to date. We don't have 150
identical servers in a farm (I'd love that and would switch
Ciao Andrea,
Pardon me, but in my opinion if you're asking this kind of questions,
porting the Gentoo build system (or even any non-trivial application
without upstream support) to a different and basically unsupported
environment is way beyond what you can manage with your current level of
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes:
You said nmap, did you not perhaps mean tcpdump?
Brain fart, actually I was think of wireshark
James
On 09/09/2010 04:59 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:18 on Thursday 09 September 2010, dhk did
opine thusly:
Well I deleted /usr/lib32/qt4/libQtOpenGL.so.4.6.2 and ran
revdep-rebuild and got the following
. . .
* Checking dynamic linking consistency
[ 39% ] *
Apparently, though unproven, at 15:08 on Thursday 09 September 2010, dhk did
opine thusly:
On 09/09/2010 04:59 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:18 on Thursday 09 September 2010, dhk
did
opine thusly:
Well I deleted /usr/lib32/qt4/libQtOpenGL.so.4.6.2 and
gentoo is run emerge, study output, understand all of it, consider what
flameeyes has to say about it, wonder if some screw ball fucked up glibc yet
again, discuss in upgrade meetings, then proceed with lots of other crap ad
nauseam.
That's why a was talking of CentOs as fist step.
Apparently, though unproven, at 15:20 on Thursday 09 September 2010, Al did
opine thusly:
gentoo is run emerge, study output, understand all of it, consider what
flameeyes has to say about it, wonder if some screw ball fucked up glibc
yet again, discuss in upgrade meetings, then proceed
On 09/08/2010 03:10 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
When building GCC, it will scan all headers in /usr/include and apply fixes to
them, and then copy them and use the modified versions. Now a binary distro
(AFAIK) will ship the GCC modified headers, so there's no problem.
Gentoo on the other
Hello Enrico,
I did read with interest the informations about Briegel, and the
oss-qm idea. I also looked into the PDF.
I like the argumentation and the overall idea of such a repository.
Maybe it will work.
I fear there are some drawbacks. In my estimation you can compare
patches to closed
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:25:07 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
gentoo is run emerge, study output, understand all of it, consider what
flameeyes has to say about it, wonder if some screw ball fucked up
glibc yet again, discuss in upgrade meetings, then proceed with lots of
other crap ad nauseam.
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 09:08:07 -0400, dhk wrote:
How do I use SEARCH_DIRS_MASK, is there a doc? I didn't see anything
under man make.conf. I don't think I want to exclude the whole
directory, just the library: right?
If you only want to exclude a library, you need LD_LIBRARY_MASK.
The
On 09/09/2010 06:00 PM, walt wrote:
On 09/08/2010 03:10 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
When building GCC, it will scan all headers in /usr/include and apply
fixes to them, and then copy them and use the modified versions. Now a
binary distro (AFAIK) will ship the GCC modified headers, so there's
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:12 on Thursday 09 September 2010, Neil
Bothwick did opine thusly:
It's 130 different configs on 150 machines serving 30 different
systems, many of them legacy systems. Management once asked what it
will take to unlegacy all of that. They didn't like my
On Thursday 09 September 2010, walt wrote:
On 09/08/2010 03:10 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
When building GCC, it will scan all headers in /usr/include and apply
fixes to them, and then copy them and use the modified versions. Now a
binary distro (AFAIK) will ship the GCC modified headers,
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:26:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I don't want it.
I know.
I like Gentoo in -dev
I will not allow Gentoo anywhere near -prod
This is a very considered decision, as a result of already having to
fix (many times) the monumental fuck ups that happen when it is done
Hi,
short question:
Are encfs-encrypted partition, which were created under a 32bit-Linux
still readable when migrated to 64bit??
Or do I have to recrypt everything?
Thanks for any hint in advance!
Best regards,
mcc
My generic question is: When I'm using a pipe line series of commands
do I use up more/less space than doing things in sequence?
For example, I have a development Gentoo VM that has a hard drive that
is too small... I wanted to move a database off of that onto another
machine but when I tried the
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 18:36 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi,
short question:
Are encfs-encrypted partition, which were created under a 32bit-Linux
still readable when migrated to 64bit??
Or do I have to recrypt everything?
No, in the same way that you don't have to re-textify text
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:24:16 -0400 Matt Neimeyer m...@neimeyer.org wrote:
My generic question is: When I'm using a pipe line series of commands
do I use up more/less space than doing things in sequence?
For example, I have a development Gentoo VM that has a hard drive that
is too small... I
My generic question is: When I'm using a pipe line series of commands
do I use up more/less space than doing things in sequence?
When you use a pipe you don't need the space to store intermediate
results between the two programs. Thepipe is backed by a small
system-allocated RAM buffer (4k
Am 09.09.2010 19:24, schrieb Matt Neimeyer:
My generic question is: When I'm using a pipe line series of commands
do I use up more/less space than doing things in sequence?
[...]
OR going back to my generic question if I pipe line like type | sort
| unique output does that only use 1x or 3x
On Thursday 09 September 2010 04:44:26 Grant wrote:
I just got a new TP-Link TL-WR1043ND wireless router but I can't seem
connect to it. I've tried the Gentoo initscript as well as wicd.
With the initscript, I get:
wlan3: carrier lost
wlan3: timed out
I see a lot of this in
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:26 on Thursday 09 September 2010, Volker
Armin Hemmann did opine thusly:
On Thursday 09 September 2010, walt wrote:
On 09/08/2010 03:10 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
When building GCC, it will scan all headers in /usr/include and apply
fixes to them,
Am 09.09.2010 20:25, schrieb Andrea Conti:
Note however (this is the it depends part :) that piping does not
affect whatever the programs might allocate or save internally: in your
second example (which does not involve any disk writing in either case)
sort needs to see the complete input
On 09/09/2010 09:26 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Thursday 09 September 2010, walt wrote:
And the only reason to re-compile an existing glibc is if the linux kernel
headers change. I always re-compile glibc when the linux kernel headers
change...
hm, I never recompile glibc after a
On 2010-09-09, Florian Philipp li...@f_philipp.fastmail.net wrote:
When you look closer at `sort`, it is actually a quite impressive
tool. It sorts in-memory for small amounts of data and switches to
temporary files for larger. It can even compress those files to save
disk space.
And it is
On 09/09/2010 07:24 PM, Matt Neimeyer wrote:
My generic question is: When I'm using a pipe line series of commands
do I use up more/less space than doing things in sequence?
For example, I have a development Gentoo VM that has a hard drive that
is too small... I wanted to move a database off
On 09/09/2010 08:21 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 23:27:52 Daniel Troeder wrote:
On 09/08/2010 05:27 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 17:14:13 Jonathan wrote:
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 22:49:37 +0200
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes:
Why should I do all the work of pinning packages to known good versions when
the RHEL devs have already done all the heavy lifting for me?
The problem with that is when you are starting a new project now, but
the packages were pinned down quite a
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:17:52 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
hm, I never recompile glibc after a header update or anything
else
Me neither :-)
I know I should, and why. But don't.
I think the glibc and toolchain devs think the same way and go to
extraordinary lengths to make
On 09/09/2010 10:17 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:26 on Thursday 09 September 2010, Volker
Armin Hemmann did opine thusly:
On Thursday 09 September 2010, walt wrote:
On 09/08/2010 03:10 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
When building GCC, it will scan all headers in
* Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
But I'd really like to know what produces the performance hits
on Posfix @ Linux.
It comes down to the IO scheduler. Linux is designed to be general purpose.
FreeBSD is designed to be much more specific.
hmm, Linux provides several io
* Al oss.el...@googlemail.com wrote:
Even if they are pro forma open source they are mainly usefull
for the very distribution.
No, many patches are quite generic or could be easily fixed
to be that. OSS-QM makes sharing and automatic notification
on new patches easier.
In this sense they
* Al oss.el...@googlemail.com wrote:
While porting to cygwin I can be happy when they use it. For my first
impression those libraries are more easy to port. They produce
libraries with a *.dll.a suffix like the native libraries of Cygwin.
Just a few years ago, autotools (especially w/
* Andrea Conti a...@alyf.net wrote:
Pardon me, but in my opinion if you're asking this kind of questions,
porting the Gentoo build system (or even any non-trivial application
without upstream support) to a different and basically unsupported
environment is way beyond what you can manage with
On 09/09/2010 04:48 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Just want to point out that this was about GCC's fixed headers, not glibc,
which makes it off-topic and completely unrelated to the original topic :)
Huh? Who are you? Oh, wait, this was your thread. Sorry, I forgot about you
:p
The first
* Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
The only service running on my host (main system) is sshd,
which I secured as much as I could.
If you have some physical access (eg. serial console), you
could even drop sshd (or only bind it to some local interface)
to get around possible ssh attacks. That's
* Al oss.el...@googlemail.com wrote:
Somehow I don't really like the way it is done. The levels of
abstraction are mixed and it results in very cryptic parameters.
Yes. Historically grown.
I've did a little proof-of-concept for developing an generic
abstraction of toolchain operations in the
On Thursday 09 September 2010, walt wrote:
On 09/09/2010 09:26 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Thursday 09 September 2010, walt wrote:
And the only reason to re-compile an existing glibc is if the linux
kernel headers change. I always re-compile glibc when the linux kernel
headers
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 09:51:48PM +0800, ?? wrote
Thinks everyone:
DNS woks well for me. i can ping www.google.com. Just can't access
it in web-browsers without rebooting system.Sometimes I thought mybe
it's the problem of Power.But now i doubt about it! Because even
while I am
Hello all,
I've been thinking about creating a Gentoo USB stick for install and
rescue purposes (and, of course, just to see if I could). I've mostly
followed the Gentoo handbook (I used a single 4GB partition for the
whole system, and no swap). I've used genkernel for the kernel (so I
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 11:09:15PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote
You will find the occasional issue with brain-dead proprietary
software products (note carefully how I'm NOT looking at Adobe...) but
that is fixable with nsspuginwrapper.
Note that WINE requires 32-bit support libraries
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