Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Alan Grimes
Rich Freeman wrote: > > If you use emerge-webrsync then the sync operation itself should use > gpg signature checking and that should rule out server issues. Ditto > if you sync with git with the appropriate settings, though git also > has internal hash consistency checking (that doesn't prevent

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Dale
Alan Grimes wrote: > Michael Jones wrote: >> My reason for replying initially was that I didn't think it was fair >> to make light of users who don't expect to *need* to scrutinize the >> output of emerge every single time they run it. Those people exist >> (hi, nice to meet you), and it's not

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 7:55 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 19:18:17 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > > > Since 2004, I have been using "emerge --sync" to update my portage tree. > > I understand that it accesses a local list of mirrors and then runs > > rsync against one of those. On

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Sam Jorna (wraeth)
On Friday, 25 January 2019 11:18:17 AM AEDT Alan Grimes wrote: > Michael Jones wrote: > > My reason for replying initially was that I didn't think it was fair > > to make light of users who don't expect to *need* to scrutinize the > > output of emerge every single time they run it. Those people

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 19:18:17 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > Since 2004, I have been using "emerge --sync" to update my portage tree. > I understand that it accesses a local list of mirrors and then runs > rsync against one of those. On spinning media hard disks it is helpful > to pre-cache the

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Alan Grimes
Michael Jones wrote: > > My reason for replying initially was that I didn't think it was fair > to make light of users who don't expect to *need* to scrutinize the > output of emerge every single time they run it. Those people exist > (hi, nice to meet you), and it's not fair to say they're wrong

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Michael Jones
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:33 PM Jack wrote: > On 2019.01.24 15:17, Michael Jones wrote: > [snip] > > A lot of people run emerge without checking the preliminary console > > output. > But most (I hope) of them understand the possible problems, and are > willing to "pick up the pieces" if

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Dale
Michael Jones wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:04 PM Dale > wrote: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:04 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > >> I'm trying to recall but am not sure, is this the same Alan > that used to > >> come

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:39 PM Alan Grimes wrote: > > Hypothesis 1: > > Rsync failed to correctly perform it's primary function. > > > Hypothesis 2: > > Some F-tard at Gentoo world headquarters left the portage tree in an > inconsistient state, shrugged, and walked away. > Speaking on behalf of

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Jack
On 2019.01.24 15:17, Michael Jones wrote: [snip] A lot of people run emerge without checking the preliminary console output. But most (I hope) of them understand the possible problems, and are willing to "pick up the pieces" if something goes wrong. Most of them do not blame the Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Michael Jones
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:04 PM Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:04 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > >> I'm trying to recall but am not sure, is this the same Alan that used to > >> come on here and post this sort of thing when the problem was in the > >> chair not

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:04 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> I'm trying to recall but am not sure, is this the same Alan that used to >> come on here and post this sort of thing when the problem was in the >> chair not Gentoo?  I recall the person I'm speaking of having a script >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:04 -0600, Dale wrote: > I'm trying to recall but am not sure, is this the same Alan that used to > come on here and post this sort of thing when the problem was in the > chair not Gentoo?  I recall the person I'm speaking of having a script > that just created a mess and

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Dale
Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:39 PM Alan Grimes wrote: >> Some F-tard at Gentoo world headquarters left the portage tree in an >> inconsistient state, shrugged, and walked away. > Comments like this are very unwelcome, and your general attitude sucks. > > If you continue to

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Davyd McColl
On January 24, 2019 21:22:25 Mike Gilbert wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:39 PM Alan Grimes wrote: Some F-tard at Gentoo world headquarters left the portage tree in an inconsistient state, shrugged, and walked away. Comments like this are very unwelcome, and your general attitude

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:39 PM Alan Grimes wrote: > Some F-tard at Gentoo world headquarters left the portage tree in an > inconsistient state, shrugged, and walked away. Comments like this are very unwelcome, and your general attitude sucks. If you continue to communicate this way, I will

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:39:52 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > !!! A file listed in the Manifest could not be found: > /usr/portage/dev-python/pygments/files/pygments-2.2.0-sphinx17.patch > > !!! A file listed in the Manifest could not be found: >

[gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Alan Grimes
Evidence: # tortoise ~ # emerge --emptytree world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [] Total: 1601 packages (421 upgrades, 48 new, 3 in new slots, 1129 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 32,663 KiB Fetch Restriction: 2

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT scripting - strip zero if between period and digit

2019-01-24 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 1/24/19 4:00 AM, Gerrit Kühn wrote: --- [me@you ~]# ip=01.02.00.0004; for d in $(echo "${ip}"|tr '.' '\n'); do myip="${myip}"$(printf "%i" "${d}")"." ; done; echo ${myip%.} 1.2.0.4 That turns "010" into "8". Using a real programming language with a parser is only heavyweight compared to

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing file so DIE; Seriously?!?!?!?

2019-01-24 Thread Mick
On Thursday, 24 January 2019 11:19:16 GMT John Covici wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 06:07:57 -0500, > > Mick wrote: > > [1 ] > > > > On Thursday, 24 January 2019 04:28:06 GMT Davyd McColl wrote: > > > On January 24, 2019 6:25:48 AM Alan Grimes wrote: > > > > 99.999% sure this is not my fault

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing file so DIE; Seriously?!?!?!?

2019-01-24 Thread John Covici
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 06:07:57 -0500, Mick wrote: > > [1 ] > On Thursday, 24 January 2019 04:28:06 GMT Davyd McColl wrote: > > On January 24, 2019 6:25:48 AM Alan Grimes wrote: > > > 99.999% sure this is not my fault yet my build gets killed dead by it, > > > no "Okay, let's see what other things

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing file so DIE; Seriously?!?!?!?

2019-01-24 Thread Mick
On Thursday, 24 January 2019 04:28:06 GMT Davyd McColl wrote: > On January 24, 2019 6:25:48 AM Alan Grimes wrote: > > 99.999% sure this is not my fault yet my build gets killed dead by it, > > no "Okay, let's see what other things we can build", just DIE!!! > > Have you tried --keep-going? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT scripting - strip zero if between period and digit

2019-01-24 Thread Gerrit Kühn
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 16:45:59 -0500 Michael Orlitzky wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT scripting - strip zero if between period and digit: > > This is not a good application for a regex. > Since that doesn't seem to be stopping anyone, here's my entry. Since the only alternative to a regexp