Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

2021-08-23 Thread karl
Dr. Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM wrote: ... > > Regarding udev, it has never > > supported serial mice, so it doesn't help me. > What are you talking about? Udev doesn't "support" any hardware; as the > manual page states[1], it: "supplies the system software with

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 16:57:11 -0400, John Covici wrote: > So back to my original question, I downloaded -- after a lot of > trouble finding it -- the Ubuntu 21.04 live server as they call it, > but I cannot find any documentation as to how to use it as a rescue > disk -- seems to be just an

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread John Covici
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 13:38:45 -0400, Meik Frischke wrote: > > Am Mo., 23. Aug. 2021 um 10:15 Uhr schrieb John Covici > : > > > > Hi. I have been using 5.4 lts kernels for a while, but it seems I > > need to change to 5.10 lts -- even Debian is now using 5.10, so it > > seems time to do this. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread John Covici
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 14:13:30 -0400, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > [1 ] > On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 14:02:29 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > Aren't new features only applied to newly created pools and datasets? > > > If /boot was compatible with GRUB it should still be. At least that's > > > how I read

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Vitor Hugo Nunes dos Santos
Don't complain to me on the Gentoo mailling list. Go bother: A.The ZFS mailling list B.The GRUB mailling list IIRC this has to do with the whole CDDL x GPL situation. On the topic of not having UEFI as a possibility: Either upgrade your machine or go back to the steps mentioned above. I

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 19:50:38 +, Vitor Hugo Nunes dos Santos wrote: > GRUB purposefully has lacking documentation, as they are not friendly > towards ZFS as a whole That's ridiculous, if they can support it with code, they can support it with documentation. > and also because most people

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Vitor Hugo Nunes dos Santos
To expand on this even further: GRUB usage with ZFS, in my experience, requires the following patch: https://vhns.com.br/pix/grub-zfs-patch.html I took it from GRUB's mailling list. I don't really recall who wrote it. August 23, 2021 4:51 PM, "Vitor Hugo Nunes dos Santos" wrote: > You set

[gentoo-user] udev and IR receiver problem

2021-08-23 Thread Daniel Frey
Hi all, I've been struggling with an odd udev problem. Any udev experts on here? Some background: My 13-year-old HTPC finally kicked the bucket. After looking around, stock levels of PC parts around here are close to nonexistant. I had a newer donor board/ram/cpu around that's 5-7 years old.

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

2021-08-23 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM wrote: [...] > It is inconvenient that thoose two goes away. Regarding udev, it has never > supported serial mice, so it doesn't help me. > What are you talking about? Udev doesn't "support" any hardware; as the manual page states[1], it: "supplies the system

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Vitor Hugo Nunes dos Santos
You set yourself up for failure by sharing the same pool for /boot and root. Here's the flags you're meant to use for your boot pool: https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/Getting%20Started/Debian/Debian%20Buster%20Root%20on%20ZFS.html#step-2-disk-formatting Under "Create boot pool". GRUB

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 2:13 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > All I could find was this: > > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/grub.git/tree/grub-core/fs/zfs/zfs.c#n276 > > For a program with so much documentation, GRUB seems sorely lacking in > this respect. It makes me glad I decided to keep /boot

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 14:02:29 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Aren't new features only applied to newly created pools and datasets? > > If /boot was compatible with GRUB it should still be. At least that's > > how I read the einfo messages zfs spits out. > > That is correct. I want to know when

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 1:57 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 13:37:01 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > Your root pool setup doesn't really matter for GRUB compatibility. > > > What's important is that you have the proper features setup on your > > > boot pool. That's the one

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 13:37:01 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Your root pool setup doesn't really matter for GRUB compatibility. > > What's important is that you have the proper features setup on your > > boot pool. That's the one GRUB loads. > > Sure, and in this case /boot is on my root pool.

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Meik Frischke
Am Mo., 23. Aug. 2021 um 10:15 Uhr schrieb John Covici : > > Hi. I have been using 5.4 lts kernels for a while, but it seems I > need to change to 5.10 lts -- even Debian is now using 5.10, so it > seems time to do this. > > Now, the problem is that I am using zfs and will not give it up, and >

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:45 AM Vitor Hugo Nunes dos Santos wrote: > > Your root pool setup doesn't really matter for GRUB compatibility. What's > important is that you have the proper features setup on your boot pool. > That's the one GRUB loads. Sure, and in this case /boot is on my root

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

2021-08-23 Thread karl
Karl Hammar: > Dr. Canek Peláez Valdés: ... > > My point is that it's not his call; it's the call of the developers of the > > software that he decided to use. > > Poeple write whatever software they want to or are paid to do. > It is my call if I want to use that software or not. For what

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

2021-08-23 Thread Vitor Hugo Nunes dos Santos
Based Karl Keep the bloaties at bay Rock on August 23, 2021 1:08 PM, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Dr. Canek Peláez Valdés: > ... > >> Where do you get that impression from? The OP needs handling keyboard and >> mouse (as per his first email), and to do that in Linux these days, you >> basically

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

2021-08-23 Thread karl
Dr. Canek Peláez Valdés: ... > Where do you get that impression from? The OP needs handling keyboard and > mouse (as per his first email), and to do that in Linux these days, you > basically need udev, because xf86-input-mouse and xf86-input-keyboard are > going the way of the dodo. It is

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Vitor Hugo Nunes dos Santos
Your root pool setup doesn't really matter for GRUB compatibility. What's important is that you have the proper features setup on your boot pool. That's the one GRUB loads. On Aug 23, 2021 12:24 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:11 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > On Mon,

RE: [gentoo-user] VirtualBox UI

2021-08-23 Thread Laurence Perkins
-Original Message- From: p...@xvalheru.org Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2021 12:53 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] VirtualBox UI On 2021-08-21 21:11, tastytea wrote: > On 2021-08-21 20:42+0200 p...@xvalheru.org wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I didn't use

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:11 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 04:15:10 -0400, John Covici wrote: > > > Now, the problem is that I am using zfs and will not give it up, and > > the version I have been using 0.8.6 is no longer supported in 5.10 > > versions of the kernel. So, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Firmware updates

2021-08-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 16:08:08 +0200, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > off and on I'm receiving updates of packages "sys-firmware/intel-micro- > code" and "sys-kernel/linux-firmware". My kernel has > >$ grep ^CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE /usr/src/linux/.config >

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 04:15:10 -0400, John Covici wrote: > Now, the problem is that I am using zfs and will not give it up, and > the version I have been using 0.8.6 is no longer supported in 5.10 > versions of the kernel. So, I need a newer version of zfs and a > rescue cd in case I get into

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:13 AM John Covici wrote: > > So, which image is it exactly and how to boot up to a virtual console, > rather than some kind of gui? It has been a while, but I usually just download their desktop installer. I suspect their server installer would make it easier to get

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread John Covici
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 09:52:10 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 8:13 AM John Covici wrote: > > > > Well, I cannot find any zfs packages and it does not say even what > > kernel version it has -- but the whole point is I do need zfs and it > > seems not to be there. > > > >

[gentoo-user] Firmware updates

2021-08-23 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Greetings, off and on I'm receiving updates of packages "sys-firmware/intel-micro- code" and "sys-kernel/linux-firmware". My kernel has $ grep ^CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE /usr/src/linux/.config CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE="intel-ucode/06-5e-03 i915/skl_dmc_ver1_27.bin regulatory.db

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 8:13 AM John Covici wrote: > > Well, I cannot find any zfs packages and it does not say even what > kernel version it has -- but the whole point is I do need zfs and it > seems not to be there. > I've also been using the Ubuntu image. It is pretty easy to install zfs on

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread John Covici
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 05:51:38 -0400, Miles Malone wrote: > > What is it makes you think system rescue cd isnt compatible with > gentoo? it's built on arch these days, but it's still the go-to > rescue and install CD, and I cannot imagine it being an issue. I > suggest giving it a go and make

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Miles Malone
What is it makes you think system rescue cd isnt compatible with gentoo? it's built on arch these days, but it's still the go-to rescue and install CD, and I cannot imagine it being an issue. I suggest giving it a go and make sure it mounts your ZFS array without issues, and go from there. It's

[gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Vitor Hugo Nunes dos Santos
Use Ubuntu's livecdOn Aug 23, 2021 5:15 AM, John Covici wrote: > > Hi.  I have been using 5.4 lts kernels for a while, but it seems I > need to change to 5.10 lts -- even Debian is now using 5.10, so it > seems time to do this. > > Now, the problem is that I am using zfs and will not give it

[gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread John Covici
Hi. I have been using 5.4 lts kernels for a while, but it seems I need to change to 5.10 lts -- even Debian is now using 5.10, so it seems time to do this. Now, the problem is that I am using zfs and will not give it up, and the version I have been using 0.8.6 is no longer supported in 5.10

Re: [gentoo-user] updating an old system

2021-08-23 Thread pat
On 2021-08-22 21:07, Jack wrote: On 2021.08.22 14:54, p...@xvalheru.org wrote: Hi, I've downloaded gentoo VirtualBox image from osboxes.org. Trying to update, but getting this error: ** emerge --oneshot sys-apps/portage * IMPORTANT: 17 news items need reading for repository