Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Wol
On 09/12/2022 01:15, Dale wrote: Given the size of one of the directories I have, it takes two drives, or soon will, and the use of LVM or something similar.  I can't do that as it is now.  I've even wondered if I hooked two eSATA drives up and gave both plenty of time to spin up if LVM would

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread William Kenworthy
* didn't send to the list the first time :( On 9/12/22 07:30, Dale wrote: I just wonder, could I use that board and just hook it to my USB port and a external power supply and skip the Raspberry Pi part?  I'd bet not tho.  ;-) Dale :-)  :-) Check this one:

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 05:30:18PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > >>> I use USB3 hard drives on Pis for my bulk storage because I care about >>> capacity far more than performance, and with a distributed filesystem >>> the performance is still good enough for what I'm doing. If

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday, 9 December 2022 00:03:29 GMT Dale wrote: > >> I think back sometimes, I started out with a 30GB hard drive wy back >> in 2003. I thought I had problems then. > Then you won't want to know that I paid extra in 1990 for an 85MB drive in my > first PC. No, not

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Dale
Daniel Frey wrote: > On 12/8/22 05:58, Dale wrote: >> >> >> I was thinking DAS was not a good option.  It seems like a feature >> removed and cheaper version of NAS. >> >> I think I've seen a couple Synology NAS boxes but I think even used >> they were a bit pricey.  Still, used could make that a

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 9 December 2022 00:03:29 GMT Dale wrote: > I think back sometimes, I started out with a 30GB hard drive wy back > in 2003. I thought I had problems then. Then you won't want to know that I paid extra in 1990 for an 85MB drive in my first PC. No, not GB: MB. -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 05:30:18PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > > I use USB3 hard drives on Pis for my bulk storage because I care about > > capacity far more than performance, and with a distributed filesystem > > the performance is still good enough for what I'm doing. If I needed > > block storage

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 6:30 PM Dale wrote: >> One thing I like about the Raspberry option, I can upgrade it later. I >> can simply take out the old, put in new, upgrade done. If I buy a >> prebuilt NAS, they pretty much are what they are if upgrading isn't a >> option.

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 6:30 PM Dale wrote: > > One thing I like about the Raspberry option, I can upgrade it later. I > can simply take out the old, put in new, upgrade done. If I buy a > prebuilt NAS, they pretty much are what they are if upgrading isn't a > option. Some of the more expensive

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Daniel Frey
On 12/8/22 05:58, Dale wrote: I was thinking DAS was not a good option.  It seems like a feature removed and cheaper version of NAS. I think I've seen a couple Synology NAS boxes but I think even used they were a bit pricey.  Still, used could make that a option. Maybe.  It could fall

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 7:37 AM Dale wrote: >> Path two, I've researched building a NAS using a Raspberry Pi 4 8GB as >> another option. They come as parts, cases too, but the newer and faster >> models of Raspberry Pi 4 with more ram seem to work pretty well. > For this

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 11:56 AM Laurence Perkins wrote: > > Pine64 has an interesting array of SBCs which are both cheaper and (some are) > possibly better suited to becoming a NAS than a Pi. One of them even has a > PCIe socket I think. > I have the RockPro64 and I'll go ahead and warn you

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 08/12/2022 13:31, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 5:38 AM Dale > > wrote: >>  > >>  > Howdy, >>  > >>  > I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups.  I'm up to a 16TB >> hard >>  > drive for one and even that won't last

[gentoo-user] Duel boot - How to verify boot loader updates?

2022-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi, This is a bit of a conceptual question, simplified but based on a machine I do own, from someone who knows very little about boot loader implementations. (I.e. - me) Thanks in advance for any pointers you can provide. Assume a machine with two separate M.2 SSDs. The M.2 devices are

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby, Ragel, and Colm

2022-12-08 Thread Matthias Hanft
Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > That said, try the ~arch version of ragel. It has a patch that improves > linking against libfsm, which appears in your error message. Thanks, ~ragel-7.0.4-r2 did work. (Still not knowing why the other server worked without any problems with 7.0.4 without -r2 - but

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 06:36:14PM + schrieb Wols Lists: > > > I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups.  I'm up to a 16TB hard > > > drive for one and even that won't last long.  Larger drives are much > > > more costly.  A must have NAS is quickly approaching.  I've been > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby, Ragel, and Colm

2022-12-08 Thread Matt Connell
On Thu, 2022-12-08 at 18:49 +0100, Matthias Hanft wrote: > I just wanted to "emerge ruby" on a new Gentoo server which failed > at dev-util/ragel-7.0.4 with > >   make[3]: *** No rule to make target '/usr/lib64/libfsm.la', needed by > 'ragel'.  Stop. I also had (I mean I still have the server,

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 11:36 AM Wols Lists wrote: > > > > DAS is direct-attached-storage. I don't think you want that. > > Depends. If it fits in the safe, and can be connected using one of these > eSATA thingy connectors, it might be a very good choice. First, I Agree about 300% with

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby, Ragel, and Colm

2022-12-08 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2022-12-08 at 18:49 +0100, Matthias Hanft wrote: > > I hesitate to open a new Gentoo Bugzilla bug because it might not be a real > bug - > but what do I have to do on my new system that ruby (and all dependencies) can > be installed? > > Thanks in advance, > You shouldn't be afraid to

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Wols Lists
On 08/12/2022 13:31, Mark Knecht wrote: On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 5:38 AM Dale > wrote: > > Howdy, > > I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups.  I'm up to a 16TB hard > drive for one and even that won't last long.  Larger drives are much > more costly. 

[gentoo-user] Ruby, Ragel, and Colm

2022-12-08 Thread Matthias Hanft
Hi, I just wanted to "emerge ruby" on a new Gentoo server which failed at dev-util/ragel-7.0.4 with make[3]: *** No rule to make target '/usr/lib64/libfsm.la', needed by 'ragel'. Stop. (immediately before, dev-util/colm-0.14.7-r2 was installed successfully) I already have found

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 6:59 AM Dale wrote: > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > DAS is direct-attached-storage. I don't think you want that. > I was thinking DAS was not a good option. It seems like a feature removed and cheaper version of NAS. I've never touched a DAS box but my limited understanding

RE: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Laurence Perkins
> -Original Message- > From: Rich Freeman > Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2022 6:12 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:59 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > > You could, but this is either

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:59 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > You could, but this is either a sink-hole for time, or you need to get up to > speed with cross-compiling and binhosts. I went with the standard Debian and > evaluate Arch from time to time. But I do run Gentoo on my DIY NAS with an >

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 06:37:52AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > Howdy, > > I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups.  I'm up to a 16TB hard > drive for one and even that won't last long.  Larger drives are much > more costly.  A must have NAS is quickly approaching. Hear hear, ye olde story. ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 5:38 AM Dale > wrote: > > > > Howdy, > > > > I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups.  I'm up to a 16TB hard > > drive for one and even that won't last long.  Larger drives are much > > more costly.  A must have

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 7:37 AM Dale wrote: > > Path two, I've researched building a NAS using a Raspberry Pi 4 8GB as > another option. They come as parts, cases too, but the newer and faster > models of Raspberry Pi 4 with more ram seem to work pretty well. For this sort of application the key

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 5:38 AM Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups. I'm up to a 16TB hard > drive for one and even that won't last long. Larger drives are much > more costly. A must have NAS is quickly approaching. I've been > searching around and find

[gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Dale
Howdy, I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups.  I'm up to a 16TB hard drive for one and even that won't last long.  Larger drives are much more costly.  A must have NAS is quickly approaching.  I've been searching around and find some things confusing.  I'm hoping someone can clear up