Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-31 Thread Grant
You can get away with almost anything except these two things: Do not micro-manage Do not tell them how to do what they do Could you give me an example of this last one? - I see you are using Perl with hashrefs to do function xyz. Have you considered (i.e. I would like you

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-30 Thread Grant
Regarding proposals, schedules, roadmaps, milestones  I've got a list of a million changes to make to my website's front-end and back-end.  There is a very specific way I want things to work, so everything is broken down to a granular task level.  In the old days I would just dig in and

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-30 Thread Grant
You can get away with almost anything except these two things: Do not micro-manage Do not tell them how to do what they do Could you give me an example of this last one? - I see you are using Perl with hashrefs to do function xyz. Have you considered (i.e. I would like you to) using

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 30 May 2012 02:11:54 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: You can get away with almost anything except these two things: Do not micro-manage Do not tell them how to do what they do Could you give me an example of this last one? - I see you are using Perl with

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-29 Thread Grant
I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly.  Any other tips regarding the management of one or more programmers working on various small web projects?  Maybe workflow or any key procedures a newbie manager should follow? You can get away with almost anything except these two things:

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 29 May 2012 01:34:52 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: All these things class as interference. Managers and owners who do this have miles of justifiable reasons for doing so, but it's always hogwash - they interfere, plain and simple. This is really interesting to me.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-29 Thread Pandu Poluan
On May 29, 2012 3:39 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly. Any other tips regarding the management of one or more programmers working on various small web projects? Maybe workflow or any key procedures a newbie manager should follow?

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-29 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly.  Any other tips regarding the management of one or more programmers working on various small web projects?  Maybe workflow or any key procedures a newbie manager should follow?

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-29 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 05/29/12 09:58, Michael Mol wrote: I'd probably suggest reading The Mythical Man-Month. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month As long as we're suggesting books, this is one of my favorites: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peopleware:_Productive_Projects_and_Teams At

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 29 May 2012 09:58:00 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly.  Any other tips regarding the management of one or more programmers working on various small web

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-29 Thread Grant
Everything I know about dealing with technical people is from the school of hard knocks :-) And class is definitely in session! Thanks to all for your guidance with this. I don't think it's something that can be taught or properly described adequately. But there are some obvious concepts:

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:51:13 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Oh , one last thing: despite all appearances to the contrary, most people out there can be trusted to do the right thing as far as they are able, and do want to do a good job. Don't let occasional lapses cloud your view

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 29 May 2012 15:37:37 Alan McKinnon wrote: Oh, and this one is a classic too: Q: How do you get a project to be 3 years late? A: One day at a time. Or: the first 50% of the project takes the first 90% of the time, and the other 50% of the project takes the other 90% of the time.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 05/27/2012 05:18 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: You need an existing development house with a reputation to uphold, located in the same city as you. Without getting into the (book-length) details, I'll +1 this.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-28 Thread Grant
I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly.  Any other tips regarding the management of one or more programmers working on various small web projects?  Maybe workflow or any key procedures a newbie manager should follow? You can get away with almost anything except these two things: Do

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 28 May 2012 09:00:55 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly.  Any other tips regarding the management of one or more programmers working on various small web projects?  Maybe workflow or any key procedures a newbie manager should

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-27 Thread Grant
I'm debating whether I should hire an expert programmer for $X/hour, or a company of expert programmers for $2X/hour.  It makes sense from a financial perspective to hire programmers directly, but I wonder if there are benefits to hiring a really good company. I'm sorry this is OT, but I bet

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sat, 26 May 2012 23:22:22 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Extensive testing, on the other hand, is something a team should do. Sure, the lone programmer can write you some unit tests and conduct a system test, but testing itself is a profession of its own and should be done by

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-27 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 27.05.2012 08:22, schrieb Grant: I'm debating whether I should hire an expert programmer for $X/hour, or a company of expert programmers for $2X/hour. It makes sense from a financial perspective to hire programmers directly, but I wonder if there are benefits to hiring a really good

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-27 Thread Grant
I'm debating whether I should hire an expert programmer for $X/hour, or a company of expert programmers for $2X/hour.  It makes sense from a financial perspective to hire programmers directly, but I wonder if there are benefits to hiring a really good company. [snip] Thank you Florian and

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-27 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 27. Mai 2012, 09:09:26 schrieb Grant: I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly. Any other tips regarding the management of one or more programmers working on various small web projects? Maybe workflow or any key procedures a newbie manager should follow? seriously? asking

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-27 Thread Grant
I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly.  Any other tips regarding the management of one or more programmers working on various small web projects?  Maybe workflow or any key procedures a newbie manager should follow? seriously? asking those questions? Get a company. Make it their

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 27 May 2012 09:53:22 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly.  Any other tips regarding the management of one or more programmers working on various small web projects?  Maybe workflow or any key procedures a newbie manager should

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 27 May 2012 09:09:26 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm debating whether I should hire an expert programmer for $X/hour, or a company of expert programmers for $2X/hour.  It makes sense from a financial perspective to hire programmers directly, but I wonder if there are

[gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-26 Thread Grant
I'm debating whether I should hire an expert programmer for $X/hour, or a company of expert programmers for $2X/hour. It makes sense from a financial perspective to hire programmers directly, but I wonder if there are benefits to hiring a really good company. I'm sorry this is OT, but I bet you

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?

2012-05-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 26.05.2012 13:26, schrieb Grant: I'm debating whether I should hire an expert programmer for $X/hour, or a company of expert programmers for $2X/hour. It makes sense from a financial perspective to hire programmers directly, but I wonder if there are benefits to hiring a really good