On Dec 16, 2007 2:09 AM, Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you have a list of significant improvements you want implemented?
There were gaping holes in linux's abilities in the past. These
problems have been fixed. Change simply for the sake of change is a
relic of the Windows era.
Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking
at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like
things being improved as quickly as possible. FreeBSD is supposed to
be the closest relation, but even that won't do. I don't think there
is
What does everyone else think about this. Is portage a major blocker
of progress or not so much?
As said above, details are major blockers of progress.
Can you elaborate on this? Do you just mean that there are many small
things that are blocking Gentoo's progress?
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What does everyone else think about this. Is portage a major blocker
of progress or not so much?
As said above, details are major blockers of progress.
On the other hand, when I switched to paludis, 100 MB
of unnecessary packages suddenly were available to delete.
So, paludis must do
On (17/12/07 11:29) Ralf Stephan wrote:
What does everyone else think about this. Is portage a major blocker
of progress or not so much?
As said above, details are major blockers of progress.
On the other hand, when I switched to paludis, 100 MB
of unnecessary packages suddenly were
Grant wrote:
Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking
at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like
things being improved as quickly as possible. FreeBSD is supposed to
be the closest relation, but even that won't do. I don't think there
On Saturday 15 December 2007 20:00:54 Grant wrote:
The real blocker for features that I'd like Gentoo to support is
Portage. There is only 1½ people working on it and changing anything in
it is hard because Portage is a horrible mess. There's plenty of
activity in the tree but new
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
On Saturday 15 December 2007 20:00:54 Grant wrote:
The real blocker for features that I'd like Gentoo to support is
Portage. There is only 1½ people working on it and changing anything in
it is hard because Portage is a horrible mess. There's plenty of
activity
The real blocker for features that I'd like Gentoo to support is
Portage. There is only 1½ people working on it and changing anything in
it is hard because Portage is a horrible mess. There's plenty of
activity in the tree but new desired features cannot be used in the
tree
On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 18:13 -0600, Dale wrote:
Florian Philipp wrote:
Okay, here it goes:
I think we could need a better support for binary packages.
There was a thread in here a few months ago about how to offer binary
packages for customers. As far as I remember the problem was
Florian Philipp wrote:
On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 18:13 -0600, Dale wrote:
Florian Philipp wrote:
Okay, here it goes:
I think we could need a better support for binary packages.
There was a thread in here a few months ago about how to offer binary
packages for customers. As far as I
I love gentoo and can't settle for anything else. What can I do to
make sure development doesn't stop?
Let me in on that. What can I do too?
Help out with bugfixing by submitting patches or even just
confirming bugs and supplying needed details?
Join testing teams? Join the Weekly News
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:44:55 -0600, Dale wrote:
That is when you compile it on another machine then install it on the
laptop. The -K option comes to mind here.
Which is what I think the OP was talking about. If you install one of the
*-bin packages from portage, you are protected by the
On Saturday 15 December 2007 03:35:51 Grant wrote:
My ideas aren't really important unless they're everyone else's ideas
too.
What is it exactly you want to achieve by starting these pointless threads?
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Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:44:55 -0600, Dale wrote:
That is when you compile it on another machine then install it on the
laptop. The -K option comes to mind here.
Which is what I think the OP was talking about. If you install one of the
*-bin packages from
That is when you compile it on another machine then install it on the
laptop. The -K option comes to mind here.
Which is what I think the OP was talking about. If you install one of the
*-bin packages from portage, you are protected by the checksums in the
ebuild digest.
On Saturday 15 December 2007 15:05:28 Grant wrote:
Neil correctly translated my pseudo-English to what I actually meant. I
don't want to make Portage binary based. I just want to make Portage's
binary package support more conveniently usable on big networks.
Even eclasses in the tree don't
Florian Philipp wrote:
Maybe his/her laptop doesn't stand the
thermal output of its CPU when emerging or maybe he/she's the
administrator of a large company's network, trying to move every
computer system to Gentoo.
Check out distccd!
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So, what would need to happen for one of these projects to take off
would be one or more people to be in charge of it and organize it, and
they recruit as many people as possible to work on the project along
with them?
The real blocker for features that I'd like Gentoo to support is
The real blocker for features that I'd like Gentoo to support is Portage.
There is only 1½ people working on it and changing anything in it is hard
because Portage is a horrible mess. There's plenty of activity in the tree
but new desired features cannot be used in the tree until Portage
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:41:21 -0500, Randy Barlow wrote:
Maybe his/her laptop doesn't stand the
thermal output of its CPU when emerging or maybe he/she's the
administrator of a large company's network, trying to move every
computer system to Gentoo.
Check out distccd!
How does that
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 07:48:12AM -0800, Grant wrote
Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking
at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like
things being improved as quickly as possible.
One item (amongst many) that chased me away from
Neil Bothwick wrote:
Maybe his/her laptop doesn't stand the
thermal output of its CPU when emerging or maybe he/she's the
administrator of a large company's network, trying to move every
computer system to Gentoo.
Check out distccd!
How does that help? Either every machine on the network
Grant ha scritto:
Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking
at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like
things being improved as quickly as possible.
Where do you find it is slowed?
FreeBSD is supposed to
be the closest relation, but
Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking
at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like
things being improved as quickly as possible. FreeBSD is supposed to
be the closest relation, but even that won't do. I don't think there
is
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:48:12 -0800
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking
at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like
things being improved as quickly as possible. FreeBSD is supposed to
be the closest
On Dec 14, 2007 5:30 PM, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking
at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like
things being improved as quickly as possible. FreeBSD is supposed to
be the closest
Daniel da Veiga wrote:
On Dec 14, 2007 5:30 PM, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking
at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like
things being improved as quickly as possible. FreeBSD is supposed to
Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking
at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like
things being improved as quickly as possible. FreeBSD is supposed to
be the closest relation, but even that won't do. I don't think there
is
Volunteer to pick up part of the load, I guess - something that I, as a
newbie, am reluctant to do - but I guess I will if filezilla continues
to languish.
There is indeed an issue; e.g. TOR, a popular desktop package, is a
release behind; Vidalia, is two releases behind - one a security
On Freitag, 14. Dezember 2007, Grant wrote:
Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking
at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like
things being improved as quickly as possible.
Where do you find it is slowed?
I don't have
Grant wrote:
Gentoo's foundation is great. I can't think of any major changes that
should to happen to it. But Gentoo is at this point *only* a
foundation. It needs more (removable) layers. FreeBSD created extra
layers on its own foundation and called the result PC-BSD which is
aimed at the
7v5w7go9ub0o wrote:
OTOH, the good news is that a newbie like me can install an outdated
package (e.g. Vidalia); resolve dependencies; uninstall the portage
version; download and compile the current version from the developer.
If you know how to do those things, learning how to make the ebuild
Grant wrote:
Let me in on that. What can I do too?
Find bugs on b.g.o. and help out!
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On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 13:58 -0600, Christopher Dale wrote:
Feel free to post any ideas you have to enhance Gentoo's base
functionality to the list though, I think you've roused everyone's
curiosity Grant :D
Christopher
Okay, here it goes:
I think we could need a better support for
Grant ha scritto:
Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking
at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like
things being improved as quickly as possible.
Where do you find it is slowed?
I don't have statistics to support this, but it seems
Randy Barlow ha scritto:
7v5w7go9ub0o wrote:
OTOH, the good news is that a newbie like me can install an outdated
package (e.g. Vidalia); resolve dependencies; uninstall the portage
version; download and compile the current version from the developer.
If you know how to do those things,
On Dec 14, 2007 6:15 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Randy Barlow ha scritto:
7v5w7go9ub0o wrote:
OTOH, the good news is that a newbie like me can install an outdated
package (e.g. Vidalia); resolve dependencies; uninstall the portage
version; download and compile the current version
Florian Philipp ha scritto:
Other things to improve? A better documentation on USE-flags. In my
opinion every maintainer should provide as much information as possible
on what exactly a USE-flag changes. At the moment it's the
administrator's responsibility to find this out. Not really a good
Randy Barlow wrote:
7v5w7go9ub0o wrote:
OTOH, the good news is that a newbie like me can install an outdated
package (e.g. Vidalia); resolve dependencies; uninstall the portage
version; download and compile the current version from the developer.
If you know how to do those things, learning
Florian Philipp wrote:
Okay, here it goes:
I think we could need a better support for binary packages.
There was a thread in here a few months ago about how to offer binary
packages for customers. As far as I remember the problem was (and still
is) that there is no easy way to check the
7v5w7go9ub0o wrote:
My concerns with this, other than my abilities, are:
1. Showing proper respect to the guy who pioneered the effort to date,
and who may simply be out of town. (This disrespect would be alleviated
if there was an official policy encouraging volunteer ebuilds.)
It's not
Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking
at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like
things being improved as quickly as possible. FreeBSD is supposed to
be the closest relation, but even that won't do. I don't think there
is
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