Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-02-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 05 February 2011 15:28:22 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > and that is all the intel stuff. For AMD all you have to do is: > > modprobe -r microcode && modprobe microcode > > Is the microcode permanently flashed or loaded into some > internal RAM ? loaded. mi

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-02-05 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 05.02.2011 14:34, schrieb Enrico Weigelt: > > BTW: I'm currently designing an emode/microcode-base computer > architecture built on an matrix of nanocores, they don't have a > concept of main memory, instead a relatively large (linear > addressable) register memory, part of the register space i

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-02-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 05 February 2011 15:28:22 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > and that is all the intel stuff. For AMD all you have to do is: > > modprobe -r microcode && modprobe microcode > > Is the microcode permanently flashed or loaded into some > internal RAM ? loaded. mi

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-02-05 Thread meino . cramer
Enrico Weigelt [11-02-05 16:08]: > * Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > and that is all the intel stuff. For AMD all you have to do is: > > modprobe -r microcode && modprobe microcode > > Is the microcode permanently flashed or loaded into some > internal RAM ? > > > cu > -- > ---

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-02-05 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > and that is all the intel stuff. For AMD all you have to do is: > modprobe -r microcode && modprobe microcode Is the microcode permanently flashed or loaded into some internal RAM ? cu -- -- E

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-02-05 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > the CPU. All CPUs use microcode. For decades. Google, or go straight to > wikipedia. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcode Borroughs' large systems (b6500+) were designed as microcode machines from ground up, which essentially interpreted an algol bytecode (th

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
btw, very related: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2011/01/17/microupdates-for-microcodes

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Mick wrote: > > Is the /etc/microcode.dat path a bug, now that firmware is typically placed in > /lib/firmware? > > Shall I create a symlink or raise a bug report? > -- > Regards, > Mick > Mick, I don't think so. Seems to me Gentoo can put this where ever it

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 21:13:49 Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Mick wrote: > > On Tuesday 18 January 2011 20:42:05 Paul Hartman wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Paul Hartman > >> > > >> > wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 18 January 2011 20:42:05 Paul Hartman wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Paul Hartman >> > >> > wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mark Knecht > wrote: >> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 20:42:05 Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Paul Hartman > > > > wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > >>> OK, I got it to load by hand: > >>> > >>> 1) emerge m

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Paul Hartman > wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> OK, I got it to load by hand: >>> >>> 1) emerge microcode-ctl >>> >>> which also emerges microcode-data. Unfortunately microco

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> OK, I got it to load by hand: >> >> 1) emerge microcode-ctl >> >> which also emerges microcode-data. Unfortunately microcode-data looks >> to be out of date. > > The ebuild for newer ver

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > OK, I got it to load by hand: > > 1) emerge microcode-ctl > > which also emerges microcode-data. Unfortunately microcode-data looks > to be out of date. The ebuild for newer versions (including the latest 20101123) is in portage as ~amd64 and

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 09:34:14 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Paul Hartman > > > > wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:29 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: > >>> The bios microcode update is likely an enable sett

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Paul Hartman > wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:29 PM, William Kenworthy >> wrote: >>> The bios microcode update is likely an enable setting rather than the >>> bios actually updating the cpu.  You need t

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
btw, very related: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2011/01/17/microupdates-for-microcodes

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:29 PM, William Kenworthy > wrote: >> The bios microcode update is likely an enable setting rather than the >> bios actually updating the cpu.  You need to do some reading/asking of >> the manufacturers (not here) i

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:29 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: > The bios microcode update is likely an enable setting rather than the > bios actually updating the cpu.  You need to do some reading/asking of > the manufacturers (not here) if it bothers you. Thanks for the links, I didn't realize they

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread William Kenworthy
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 20:46 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Monday 17 January 2011 20:19:04 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Volker Armin Hemmann [11-01-17 20:16]: > > > On Monday 17 January 2011 18:21:48 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I have two questions: > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 17 January 2011 16:59:26 Jason Weisberger wrote: > The word "probably" implies that you have no idea what the statistics were > on getting a perfectly good core were or why they disabled entire batches of > cores based on an error from one. > > You are just overdriving your point. If he

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread Jason Weisberger
The word "probably" implies that you have no idea what the statistics were on getting a perfectly good core were or why they disabled entire batches of cores based on an error from one. You are just overdriving your point. If he doesn't want to enable updation of microcode, it won't hurt anything

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 17 January 2011 12:12:08 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:57 AM, wrote: > > > > So...why should I try unknown code patched into my CPU. > > > > It looks like "install this virus" from the security point > > of view, doesn't ist? > > That was my point. > > I think the

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 17 January 2011 15:13:54 Jason Weisberger wrote: > As he said in the previous message, there are almost never changelogs for > microcode updates. > > I do, however, have to disagree with *never* disabling microcode updates. > If I recall properly, the AMD Phenom II 720 was able to be unl

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:57 AM, wrote: > So...why should I try unknown code patched into my CPU. > > It looks like "install this virus" from the security point > of view, doesn't ist? That was my point. I think the idea Volker is suggesting is the micro-code updates go from AMD (who understa

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread Jason Weisberger
As he said in the previous message, there are almost never changelogs for microcode updates. I do, however, have to disagree with *never* disabling microcode updates. If I recall properly, the AMD Phenom II 720 was able to be unlocked to 4 cores via a misconfiguration that enabled it with ACC. AM

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread meino . cramer
Volker Armin Hemmann [11-01-17 20:52]: > On Monday 17 January 2011 20:19:04 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Volker Armin Hemmann [11-01-17 20:16]: > > > On Monday 17 January 2011 18:21:48 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I have two questions: > > > > 1) Do I have to enable

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 17 January 2011 20:19:04 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann [11-01-17 20:16]: > > On Monday 17 January 2011 18:21:48 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have two questions: > > > 1) Do I have to enable microcode updates in the BIOS of my > > > Crosshair >

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread meino . cramer
Volker Armin Hemmann [11-01-17 20:16]: > On Monday 17 January 2011 18:21:48 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have two questions: > > > > 1) Do I have to enable microcode updates in the BIOS of my Crosshair > > IV Formula to activate microcodes push in the CPU by the module > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 17 January 2011 19:34:08 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > BRM [11-01-17 19:16]: > > - Original Message > > > > > I have two questions: > > > 1) Do I have to enable microcode updates in the BIOS of my > > > Crosshair > > > > > > IV Formula to activate microcodes push in th

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 17 January 2011 10:48:36 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:10 AM, BRM wrote: > > - Original Message > > > >> I have two questions: > >> > >> 1) Do I have to enable microcode updates in the BIOS of my Crosshair > >> IV Formula to activate microcodes push in

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 17 January 2011 18:21:48 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > I have two questions: > > 1) Do I have to enable microcode updates in the BIOS of my Crosshair > IV Formula to activate microcodes push in the CPU by the module > "microcode" ? (AMD Phenom X6 1090T) > you ALWAYS ha

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:10 AM, BRM wrote: > - Original Message > >> I have two questions: >> >>  1) Do I have to enable microcode  updates in the BIOS of my Crosshair >>     IV Formula to activate  microcodes push in the CPU by the module >>     "microcode" ? (AMD  Phenom X6 1090T) > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread meino . cramer
BRM [11-01-17 19:16]: > - Original Message > > > I have two questions: > > > > 1) Do I have to enable microcode updates in the BIOS of my Crosshair > > IV Formula to activate microcodes push in the CPU by the module > > "microcode" ? (AMD Phenom X6 1090T) > > Not sure about

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread BRM
- Original Message > I have two questions: > > 1) Do I have to enable microcode updates in the BIOS of my Crosshair > IV Formula to activate microcodes push in the CPU by the module > "microcode" ? (AMD Phenom X6 1090T) Not sure about BIOS, but the Linux Kernel you are runni

[gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-17 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, I have two questions: 1) Do I have to enable microcode updates in the BIOS of my Crosshair IV Formula to activate microcodes push in the CPU by the module "microcode" ? (AMD Phenom X6 1090T) 2) Does anyone know, what these microcodes do? They are fixes for... ...what? Thank