Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-26 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 01:29:29PM -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote There are some confusing things about this. - The log contains 1920x1080 modelines, but is not using them or clearly stating the reason. - The log contains the lines (!!) MACH64(0): Virtual resolutions will be limited to

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-25 Thread dhk
On 08/24/2010 08:07 PM, Dale wrote: dhk wrote: On 08/24/2010 06:59 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: Yah, I

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: I found the specs with Hsync and VSync limits, but they don't mention the clock speed.  I guess I'll just have to fool with it until it works or catches fire. That basically describes the way I've done my X monitor

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-25 Thread Mick
On 25 August 2010 15:17, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: I found the specs with Hsync and VSync limits, but they don't mention the clock speed.  I guess I'll just have to fool with it until it works or

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 August 2010 15:17, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: I found the specs with Hsync and VSync limits, but they don't mention the

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-25 Thread Mick
On 25 August 2010 15:38, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 August 2010 15:17, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 August 2010 15:38, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 August 2010 15:17, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 25 August 2010 15:44:58 Mick wrote: Fair enough, but anything other than the native resolution on an LCD monitor will end looking distorted or blurred. Why? Granted, LCD panels are made up of discreet pixels, but so are CRTs: the dots are deposited in trios, each illuminated

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-25 Thread Maciej Grela
2010/8/25 Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org: On Wednesday 25 August 2010 15:44:58 Mick wrote: Fair enough, but anything other than the native resolution on an LCD monitor will end looking distorted or blurred. Why? Granted, LCD panels are made up of discreet pixels, but so are CRTs:

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-25 Thread Maciej Grela
2010/8/25 Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org: On Wednesday 25 August 2010 15:44:58 Mick wrote: Fair enough, but anything other than the native resolution on an LCD monitor will end looking distorted or blurred. Why? Granted, LCD panels are made up of discreet pixels, but so are CRTs:

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 25 August 2010 17:39:15 Maciej Grela wrote: 2010/8/25 Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org: On Wednesday 25 August 2010 15:44:58 Mick wrote: Fair enough, but anything other than the native resolution on an LCD monitor will end looking distorted or blurred. Why? Granted,

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-25 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.compaul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 August 2010 15:38, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.compaul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-25 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
Den 24. aug. 2010 04:27, skrev Kevin O'Gorman: I had to replace an 4:3 Westinghouse monitor this weekend. I got a new ASUS VH242H, which is very wide. But Xorg is still running 1280x1024, instead of the monitor's normal 1920x1080, according to xorg logs because of lack of video memory (using

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-25 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Håkon Alstadheim ha...@alstadheim.priv.nowrote: Den 24. aug. 2010 04:27, skrev Kevin O'Gorman: I had to replace an 4:3 Westinghouse monitor this weekend. I got a new ASUS VH242H, which is very wide. But Xorg is still running 1280x1024, instead of the

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-25 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Håkon Alstadheim ha...@alstadheim.priv.no wrote: Den 24. aug. 2010 04:27, skrev Kevin O'Gorman: I had to replace an 4:3 Westinghouse monitor this weekend. I got a new ASUS VH242H,

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-24 Thread Petri Rosenström
To display 1920x1080 resolution with 32 bit colors, you need 8,294,400 bytes of video memory. So if you have more than eight megs of video mem you shouldn't need to buy a new one. have you tried something like xrandr --auto --- Petri Rosenström On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:40 AM,

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-24 Thread Adam Carter
No. I ditched my xorg.conf completely; it had been there just because I couldn't get the Westinghouse monitor to work without it. The Xorg logs show it recognizes a boatload of modes that the monitor likes, but gives an alibi for not using the HD ones. The approach does not seem

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-24 Thread Mick
On 24 August 2010 11:23, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: No.  I ditched my xorg.conf completely; it had been there just because I couldn't get the Westinghouse monitor to work without it.  The Xorg logs show it recognizes a boatload of modes that the monitor likes, but gives an alibi

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-24 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:40 PM, d.fedo...@timeweb.ru wrote: 1) Did you made entries for right resolution mode in xorg.conf I modified xorg.conf just to change the idenity info about the monitor. Not seeing any effect, I deleted xorg.conf entirely, and that's how I'm runnung now, and got

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-24 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 August 2010 11:23, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: No. I ditched my xorg.conf completely; it had been there just because I couldn't get the Westinghouse monitor to work without it. The Xorg logs show

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-24 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 August 2010 11:23, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: No.  I ditched my xorg.conf completely; it had been there just because I

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-24 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com paul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 August 2010

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-24 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-24 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: Yah, I might have some luck with that. Since I'm years out of practice fooling with this stuff (last seen in 2002) can someone point me at the tools for 1) Computing a modeline (I understand the

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-24 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com  wrote: Yah, I might have some luck with that.  Since I'm years out of practice fooling with this stuff (last seen in 2002) can someone

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-24 Thread dhk
On 08/24/2010 06:59 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: Yah, I might have some luck with that. Since I'm years out of practice fooling with

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-24 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:10 PM, dhk dhk...@optonline.net wrote: On 08/24/2010 06:59 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: Yah, I

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-24 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.compaul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Paul Hartman [major snippage] Check out x11-apps/amlc -- it has

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-24 Thread Dale
dhk wrote: On 08/24/2010 06:59 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: Yah, I might have some luck with that. Since

[gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-23 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I had to replace an 4:3 Westinghouse monitor this weekend. I got a new ASUS VH242H, which is very wide. But Xorg is still running 1280x1024, instead of the monitor's normal 1920x1080, according to xorg logs because of lack of video memory (using the ATI on the motherboard). I can make the

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-23 Thread Bill Longman
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: I had to replace an 4:3 Westinghouse monitor this weekend. I got a new ASUS VH242H, which is very wide. But Xorg is still running 1280x1024, instead of the monitor's normal 1920x1080, according to xorg logs because of

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-23 Thread Adam Carter
I guess I've gotta look for a video card, but all I have is PCIX slots, so I don't want to put a lot of money into it (I'll be upgrading the mobo when finances permit -- which is not right now.) newer 3.3-volt PCI cards will work in a PCI-X slot - from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI-X.

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-23 Thread dennisonic
On 24/08/10 03:38, Bill Longman wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com mailto:kogor...@gmail.com wrote: I had to replace an 4:3 Westinghouse monitor this weekend. I got a new ASUS VH242H, which is very wide. But Xorg is still running

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-23 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:58 PM, denniso...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/08/10 03:38, Bill Longman wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.comwrote: I had to replace an 4:3 Westinghouse monitor this weekend. I got a new ASUS VH242H, which is very wide. But Xorg

Re: [gentoo-user] New HD monitor stretches everything. How to teach Xorg?

2010-08-23 Thread d . fedorov
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:58 PM, denniso...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/08/10 03:38, Bill Longman wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.comwrote: I had to replace an 4:3 Westinghouse monitor this weekend. I got a new ASUS VH242H, which is very wide. But