Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-10 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Stroller, On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 09:57:18PM +, Stroller wrote: On 9 Dec 2009, at 19:42, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... Installation is supposed to be an atomic operation - it starts then continues till it ends. It either fully completes or is considered to not have happened, meaning

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:36:41 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: The machine I was installing on was a laptop with no available desk top to place it on. Therefore I decided to get SSH up and running as early as possible so as to do the bulk of the installation from my nice comfy desktop, monitor

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-10 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:36:41AM +, Penguin Lover Alan Mackenzie squawked: How did this breakage happen? I would guess that at the time the installation procedure was devised, this line # mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev worked perfectly OK, since /dev didn't have any

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-10 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:36:41AM +, Penguin Lover Alan Mackenzie squawked: How did this breakage happen?  I would guess that at the time the installation procedure was devised, this line     # mount -o bind

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-10 Thread William Hubbs
Hi Neil and all, On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 02:23:13PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:36:41 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: The machine I was installing on was a laptop with no available desk top to place it on. Therefore I decided to get SSH up and running as early as

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-10 Thread Mick
On Thursday 10 December 2009 14:23:13 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:36:41 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: The machine I was installing on was a laptop with no available desk top to place it on. Therefore I decided to get SSH up and running as early as possible so as to do the

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-09 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 01:56:06PM -0500, Joshua Murphy wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Florian Philipp li...@f_philipp.fastmail.net wrote: Alan Mackenzie schrieb: Hi, folks! I'm trying to get sshd working on an embryonic Gentoo installation on my laptop.  The reason is that I

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 09 December 2009 17:24:16 Alan Mackenzie wrote: My first thought as well... I'd guess, just at a glance, that sshd was started in the chroot, and that /mnt/gentoo/dev/ is bind mounted properly, but /mnt/gentoo/dev/pts/ isn't. As said, I fixed the problem by mounting /dev with

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-09 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Alan, Thanks for the quick reply. On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 05:43:50PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 09 December 2009 17:24:16 Alan Mackenzie wrote: My first thought as well... I'd guess, just at a glance, that sshd was started in the chroot, and that /mnt/gentoo/dev/ is bind

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 09 December 2009 18:46:11 Alan Mackenzie wrote: The supported method is to ssh into the LiveCD environment then chroot from that shell. It's hard to imagine a scenario where you would have more than one user doing that at the same time, so why run sshd in the chroot at all?

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-09 Thread Stroller
On 9 Dec 2009, at 16:46, Alan Mackenzie wrote: ... (what? There are people who only boot it once before getting Gentoo completely installed? ;-). Yes, absolutely. I would consider this to be the normal scenario. When sshd'ing from within the chrooted environment, the ssh client has to add

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-09 Thread Stroller
On 9 Dec 2009, at 19:42, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... Installation is supposed to be an atomic operation - it starts then continues till it ends. It either fully completes or is considered to not have happened, meaning that persistence is diametrically opposed to what an install is. It's

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 09 December 2009 23:57:18 Stroller wrote: On 9 Dec 2009, at 19:42, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... Installation is supposed to be an atomic operation - it starts then continues till it ends. It either fully completes or is considered to not have happened, meaning that

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-09 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Alan, On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 09:42:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 09 December 2009 18:46:11 Alan Mackenzie wrote: The supported method is to ssh into the LiveCD environment then chroot from that shell. It's hard to imagine a scenario where you would have more than

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-09 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: On 9 Dec 2009, at 16:46, Alan Mackenzie wrote: ... (what? There are people who only boot it once before getting Gentoo completely installed? ;-). Yes, absolutely. I would consider this to be the normal scenario. +1 I have done that several times, even over ssh to another

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-09 Thread Stroller
On 9 Dec 2009, at 22:35, Alan Mackenzie wrote: ... Installation is supposed to be an atomic operation - it starts then continues till it ends. It either fully completes or is considered to not have happened, meaning that persistence is diametrically opposed to what an install is. OK, we

[gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-06 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, folks! I'm trying to get sshd working on an embryonic Gentoo installation on my laptop. The reason is that I want to ssh from my nice comfy desktop system into this laptop to do the rest of the installation stuff. The installation kernel with which I'm having problems is: Linux livecd

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-06 Thread Mick
On Sunday 06 December 2009 14:48:36 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Is there anything I can do to get sshd working from this kernel (and if so, what?), or is there something fundamentally wrong with the kernel configuration? Not sure if this is a kernel problem. Have you tried to set up a user account

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-06 Thread Florian Philipp
Alan Mackenzie schrieb: Hi, folks! I'm trying to get sshd working on an embryonic Gentoo installation on my laptop. The reason is that I want to ssh from my nice comfy desktop system into this laptop to do the rest of the installation stuff. The installation kernel with which I'm having

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-06 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 02:48:36PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote Hi, folks! I'm trying to get sshd working on an embryonic Gentoo installation on my laptop. The reason is that I want to ssh from my nice comfy desktop system into this laptop to do the rest of the installation stuff. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-06 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Florian Philipp li...@f_philipp.fastmail.net wrote: Alan Mackenzie schrieb: Hi, folks! I'm trying to get sshd working on an embryonic Gentoo installation on my laptop.  The reason is that I want to ssh from my nice comfy desktop system into this laptop to do

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-06 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Florian, On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 05:59:00PM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: Alan Mackenzie schrieb: I'm trying to get sshd working on an embryonic Gentoo installation on my laptop. The reason is that I want to ssh from my nice comfy desktop system into this laptop to do the rest of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-06 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Mick, On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 04:28:10PM +, Mick wrote: On Sunday 06 December 2009 14:48:36 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Is there anything I can do to get sshd working from this kernel (and if so, what?), or is there something fundamentally wrong with the kernel configuration? Not sure

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-06 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Joshua, On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 01:56:06PM -0500, Joshua Murphy wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Florian Philipp li...@f_philipp.fastmail.net wrote: Alan Mackenzie schrieb: I'm trying to get sshd working on an embryonic Gentoo installation on my laptop.  The reason is that I

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-06 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 02:48:36PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote Hi, folks! I'm trying to get sshd working on an embryonic Gentoo installation on my laptop.  The reason is that I want to ssh from my nice comfy desktop

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-06 Thread Boy Hartsuiker
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 02:48:36PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote Hi, folks! I'm trying to get sshd working on an embryonic Gentoo installation on my laptop. The reason is that I want to ssh from my nice comfy desktop system into this laptop to do the rest of the installation stuff. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems setting up sshd on an installation kernel

2009-12-06 Thread Mick
On Sunday 06 December 2009 20:23:39 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Mick, On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 04:28:10PM +, Mick wrote: On Sunday 06 December 2009 14:48:36 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Is there anything I can do to get sshd working from this kernel (and if so, what?), or is there something