Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 5 Apr 2015 00:52:30 -0400, Boricua Siempre wrote: Geentoo power first quantum super computer in 2101 and power all galactic cofederation computers. It was first supercomputer to crack secret of time travel in 2307 and become self conchious in 2402. Add this to

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-04 Thread Philip Webb
150404 waben...@gmail.com wrote: Mathematics is our basic tool to build these theories. A fundamental question is whether the mathematical axioms exist for real and we just discovered them or are they grounded by the functionality of our mind/brain ? In the latter case, it would probably be

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: What a revelation about at least a minority of Gentoo users ! -- philosophers of science + math, besides well-trained physicists. I think at least half of us on the Council have degrees in the physical sciences. I work

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/04/2015 02:50, waben...@gmail.com wrote: The scientific community is very well aware that it cannot answer the question why?, and in fact, true science doesn't even try. Science never proves anything, it only fails to disprove a realistic workable model. For the sake of

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/04/2015 13:35, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: What a revelation about at least a minority of Gentoo users ! -- philosophers of science + math, besides well-trained physicists. I think at least half of us on the Council have

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-04 Thread Boricua Siempre
Thank for de replies My english so bad because I from the future when english death languaje. Geentoo power first quantum super computer in 2101 and power all galactic cofederation computers. It was first supercomputer to crack secret of time travel in 2307 and become self conchious in 2402. I am

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, April 03, 2015 5:05:35 AM waben...@gmail.com wrote: Boricua Siempre borikua.197...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I have reading of quantum computing and I want know what operating systems are use in quantum computers. And I read quantum computers I don't think that (yet) there

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Friday 03 April 2015 06:58:38 Rich Freeman wrote: I'm not convinced that anybody has proven that quantum behavior is truly non-deterministic But it must be, surely, since it's probabilistic. I don't see how the

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:30 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: waben...@gmail.com wrote: with the movement of particles. It is a phenomenon that results from the quantum entanglement of e.g. two electrons and has to do with the nonlocality of such phenomenons. When you measure the quantum

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 03 April 2015 06:58:38 Rich Freeman wrote: I'm not convinced that anybody has proven that quantum behavior is truly non-deterministic But it must be, surely, since it's probabilistic. I don't see how the domain of probabilistic behaviour can overlap the domain of deterministic

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, April 03, 2015 8:03:12 AM Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Friday 03 April 2015 06:58:38 Rich Freeman wrote: I'm not convinced that anybody has proven that quantum behavior is truly non-deterministic But it

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:06:30PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote On Friday 03 April 2015 06:58:38 Rich Freeman wrote: I'm not convinced that anybody has proven that quantum behavior is truly non-deterministic But it must be, surely, since it's probabilistic. I don't see how the domain of

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 04 April 2015 00:02:02 Peter Humphrey wrote: Its job is to explain show this is how the world works. s/show// -- Rgds Peter.

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Friday 03 April 2015 17:11:11 Fernando Rodriguez wrote: That's the problem with science in general. The one thing it may never be able to answer is why?. I think that's the crux of the problem with some current

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/04/2015 23:11, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: That's the problem with science in general. The one thing it may never be able to answer is why?. Take gravity as an example. We got really good models for it, we can predict how it influences even light with great accuracy but what are the

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, April 03, 2015 7:30:09 PM Rich Freeman wrote: Well, the quantum mechanic would say that the position of the ball was indeterminate until it was measured. The probability of it being in any particular position is given by some function that agrees with experiment very well. And

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread microcai
on Thursday 02 April 2015 18:33:06,Boricua Siempre wrote: From: Boricua Siempre borikua.197...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Yesterday 06:33:06 Hello I have reading of quantum computing and I want know what operating systems are use in quantum computers.

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, April 04, 2015 1:57:19 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 03/04/2015 23:11, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: That's the problem with science in general. The one thing it may never be able to answer is why?. Take gravity as an example. We got really good models for it, we can predict how

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, April 04, 2015 2:50:37 AM waben...@gmail.com wrote: One thing that I don't understand is, why the fact that gravity can be described by a theory of bended space-time is leading to the assumption, that there really exists such a rubber cloth like space. I think it's because he

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread wabenbau
waben...@gmail.com wrote: We should not forget that the lasers that can be found in CD drives, the magnetic heads in modern hard disks, and also every FET are working with technology that is based on quantum effects. I never Correction: I meant TFET and not FET. -- Regards wabe

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread wabenbau
Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: On Friday, April 03, 2015 5:05:35 AM waben...@gmail.com wrote: Boricua Siempre borikua.197...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I have reading of quantum computing and I want know what operating systems are use in quantum

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: There's an explanation for uncertainty that makes common sense. Let's say I throw you a ball, you can catch it because you take many measurements of it's location and your brain tries to predict it's

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread wabenbau
Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: On Friday, April 03, 2015 5:05:35 AM waben...@gmail.com wrote: Boricua Siempre borikua.197...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I have reading of quantum computing and I want know what operating systems are use in quantum

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread wabenbau
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/04/2015 23:11, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: That's the problem with science in general. The one thing it may never be able to answer is why?. Take gravity as an example. We got really good models for it, we can predict how it influences

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread wabenbau
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Friday 03 April 2015 17:11:11 Fernando Rodriguez wrote: That's the problem with science in general. The one thing it may never be able to answer is why?. I think

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, April 04, 2015 12:02:02 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 03 April 2015 17:11:11 Fernando Rodriguez wrote: No, it's stronger than that. Einstein showed us how it works. The consequence of having a certain concentration of mass /here/ is to distort space-time just /so/ in the

[OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 03 April 2015 17:11:11 Fernando Rodriguez wrote: That's the problem with science in general. The one thing it may never be able to answer is why?. I think that's the crux of the problem with some current approaches to physics. Science does not answer the question why?. That isn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 03 April 2015 01:33:45 Ivan Viso Altamirano wrote: As far as i know , there isnt any Quantum os out there Not only no OS, but no hardware either. I don't see Gentoo having a quantum version any time soon ;-) -- Rgds Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Ivan Viso Altamirano
I forgot again . As far as i know , there isnt any Quantum os out there . Just qcpus performing a very simple algorythm. Because the particles still cant hold their state for long enough.

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread wabenbau
Boricua Siempre borikua.197...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I have reading of quantum computing and I want know what operating systems are use in quantum computers. And I read quantum computers I don't think that (yet) there exists computers that are completely based on quantum components. Maybe

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Ivan Viso Altamirano
Ii think it is about Quantum bonds . In wich 2 particles share the same State at any distance .

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, April 03, 2015 1:25:59 AM Ivan Viso Altamirano wrote: Ii think it is about Quantum bonds . In wich 2 particles share the same State at any distance . And about PhDs extracting research funds from politicians :) -- Fernando Rodriguez

[gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Boricua Siempre
Hello I have reading of quantum computing and I want know what operating systems are use in quantum computers. And I read quantum computers can use particols moving faster than light but on other book particels faster than light make analog sonar boom that can destroy universe. Is quantum

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Ivan Viso Altamirano
Btw . If the universe where that easy yo destroy ,it would already be destroyed. Is just an estadistic question . Is just very improbable that we are the most advanced lifeform in it . All if this written bi phone El 03/04/2015 01:25, Ivan Viso Altamirano ivanviso...@gmail.com escribió: Ii

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread wabenbau
waben...@gmail.com wrote: with the movement of particles. It is a phenomenon that results from the quantum entanglement of e.g. two electrons and has to do with the nonlocality of such phenomenons. When you measure the quantum attributes of one of these two electrons you instantaneous