Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-11 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 15:07 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: > On 8/11/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We here would likely be better off if we did use 220v like other > > countries but it would take us years to convert things over. > > Yep, and we would have to start by converting to plugs that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-11 Thread Richard Fish
On 8/11/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We here would likely be better off if we did use 220v like other countries but it would take us years to convert things over. Yep, and we would have to start by converting to plugs that didn't encourage us to electrocute ourselves every time we plug i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-11 Thread Alan Mckinnon
On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 13:44 +0200, Naga wrote: > On Friday 11 August 2006 13:26, Alan Mckinnon wrote: > > The current drawn through a conductor (in this case a live body) is > > determined by the voltage, and the resistance of the body itself. > > And in this case the surface that the body is in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-11 Thread Naga
On Friday 11 August 2006 13:26, Alan Mckinnon wrote: > On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 12:24 +0200, Nagatoro wrote: > > Herman Grootaers wrote: > > > On Friday 11 August 2006 11:22, Hamish Marson wrote: > > >> All-in-all I prefer 240V single phase. > > > > > > So do I, although in itself that voltage is dead

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-11 Thread Alan Mckinnon
On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 12:24 +0200, Nagatoro wrote: > Herman Grootaers wrote: > > On Friday 11 August 2006 11:22, Hamish Marson wrote: > >> All-in-all I prefer 240V single phase. > > > > So do I, although in itself that voltage is deadly > > When combined with a high enough current... The current

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-11 Thread Nagatoro
Herman Grootaers wrote: On Friday 11 August 2006 11:22, Hamish Marson wrote: All-in-all I prefer 240V single phase. So do I, although in itself that voltage is deadly When combined with a high enough current... -- Naga -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-11 Thread Dale
Hamish Marson wrote: > Dale wrote: > >> Mike Williams wrote: > >>> On Thursday 03 August 2006 19:27, James wrote: > >>> > The simplist solution is NOBODY puts a 240 VAC power supply > into a computer unless it's going to draw some serious current > (amps) thus by the nature of it bei

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-11 Thread Herman Grootaers
On Friday 11 August 2006 11:22, Hamish Marson wrote: > Dale wrote: > > Mike Williams wrote: > >> On Thursday 03 August 2006 19:27, James wrote: > >>> The simplist solution is NOBODY puts a 240 VAC power supply > >>> into a computer unless it's going to draw some serious current > >>> (amps) thus by

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-11 Thread Hamish Marson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dale wrote: > Mike Williams wrote: >> On Thursday 03 August 2006 19:27, James wrote: >> >>> The simplist solution is NOBODY puts a 240 VAC power supply >>> into a computer unless it's going to draw some serious current >>> (amps) thus by the nature of

[gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-04 Thread Remy Blank
Ted Ozolins wrote: > Well you almost got it right. The clamp is just a basic transformer > being the secondary winding. Since AC current flow changes both in > amplitude and direction, induces a current flow in the secondary > winding, "the clamp". The current is then rectified and the measurement

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-04 Thread Ted Ozolins
Remy Blank wrote: >Iain Buchanan wrote: > > >>um, I just came across a problem - it won't work with an AC power cord, >>because you have active and neutral both going through the clamp in >>opposite directions, hence they'll cancel each other out. You need only >>the active going through the cl

[gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-04 Thread Remy Blank
Iain Buchanan wrote: > um, I just came across a problem - it won't work with an AC power cord, > because you have active and neutral both going through the clamp in > opposite directions, hence they'll cancel each other out. You need only > the active going through the clamp... Or only the neutra

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 20:58 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 13:20 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > They're great devices - you can often > > buy a multimeter (every geek should have one :) with a current clamp (or > > transducer) thrown in. That way you have no wiring, no inline

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 13:20 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 11:45 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 18:27 +, James wrote: > > > Ow Mun Heng wdc.com> writes: > > > > Another, better solution is to purchase a clamp/amp meter so you > > > can merely put it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 11:45 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 18:27 +, James wrote: > > Ow Mun Heng wdc.com> writes: > > Another, better solution is to purchase a clamp/amp meter so you > > can merely put it around the power cord and make all sorts of power > > The item I wa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 20:10 -0500, Dale wrote: > Richard Fish wrote: > > On 8/3/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Well, the USA has the same coming in too. We have 220v to 240v coming > >> in but that is split into different legs for the 110v to 120v stuff. > > > > No, we don't. We have ~1

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Dale
Richard Fish wrote: > On 8/3/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, the USA has the same coming in too. We have 220v to 240v coming >> in but that is split into different legs for the 110v to 120v stuff. > > No, we don't. We have ~120V between a 'hot' wire and neutral, and > 240V appliances

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Richard Fish
On 8/3/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, the USA has the same coming in too. We have 220v to 240v coming in but that is split into different legs for the 110v to 120v stuff. No, we don't. We have ~120V between a 'hot' wire and neutral, and 240V appliances work by using the two hot wir

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Dale
Mike Williams wrote: > On Thursday 03 August 2006 19:27, James wrote: > >> The simplist solution is NOBODY puts a 240 VAC power supply >> into a computer unless it's going to draw some serious current >> (amps) thus by the nature of it being 240 VAC, you already know >> it is a power hog. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 16:04 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote: > On 8/3/06, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Unfortunately, I'm not a US resident and I live in a Country where the > > power comes in at 240V. > > > > > > I live in a cowntry where energy comes at 240V (Brazil), but all > co

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 8/3/06, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 18:27 +, James wrote: > Ow Mun Heng wdc.com> writes: > > > > > I know this is VERY OT. I have a Gentoo Server running at Home > 24/7 and > > there's a possiblity that it's really eating up my energy bill. > > > I've seen