Re: [gentoo-user] Report: Experience with f2fs

2015-02-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Todd Goodman wrote: > > But the device is still doing wear leveling and bad block > replacement so you're beholden to those algorithms and what you think > you're allocating as sequential blocks of the flash are not necessarily so. > > Of course any decent wear le

Re: [gentoo-user] Report: Experience with f2fs

2015-02-24 Thread Todd Goodman
* Rich Freeman [150224 10:19]: > On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Todd Goodman wrote: > > > > Can you explain why a log-based filesystem like f2fs would have any > > impact on wear leveling? > > > > As I understand it, wear leveling (and bad block replacement) occurs on > > the SSD itself (in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Report: Experience with f2fs

2015-02-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Todd Goodman wrote: > > Can you explain why a log-based filesystem like f2fs would have any > impact on wear leveling? > > As I understand it, wear leveling (and bad block replacement) occurs on > the SSD itself (in the Flash Translation Layer probably.) > Well, i

Re: [gentoo-user] Report: Experience with f2fs

2015-02-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 24 February 2015 07:31:26 Rich Freeman wrote: > In general though there is a reason that sysadmins tend to be very > conservative with filesystems. I doubt most even jumped onto ext4 all > that quickly even though that was very stable from the start of being > declared as such. You re

Re: [gentoo-user] Report: Experience with f2fs

2015-02-24 Thread Todd Goodman
* Rich Freeman [150224 07:32]: > On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Bob Wya wrote: > > I would always recommend a secure erase of an SSD - if you want a "fresh > > start". That will mark all the NAND cells as clear of data. That will > > benefit the longevity of your device / wear levelling. > > N

Re: [gentoo-user] Report: Experience with f2fs

2015-02-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Bob Wya wrote: > I would always recommend a secure erase of an SSD - if you want a "fresh > start". That will mark all the NAND cells as clear of data. That will > benefit the longevity of your device / wear levelling. Not a bad idea, though if you're trimming you

Re: [gentoo-user] Report: Experience with f2fs

2015-02-24 Thread Bob Wya
I would always recommend a secure erase of an SSD - if you want a "fresh start". That will mark all the NAND cells as clear of data. That will benefit the longevity of your device / wear levelling. I've been messing about with native exfat over the past few months. I found this to be a pretty dece

[gentoo-user] Report: Experience with f2fs

2015-02-23 Thread Peter Humphrey
Some list members might be interested in how I've got on with f2fs (flash-friendly file system). According to genlop I first installed f2fs on my Atom mini-server box on 1/11/14 (that's November, for the benefit of transpondians), but I'm pretty sure it must have been several months before that