Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU

2021-09-02 Thread antlists
On 02/09/2021 23:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 23:49:40 +0200, David Haller wrote: Yes it does, but only on the testing version. If you are running stable, you won't have it. I beg to differ on that point: My bad, I was looking in the wrong part of the eix output. It seems a

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU

2021-09-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 23:49:40 +0200, David Haller wrote: > >Yes it does, but only on the testing version. If you are running > >stable, you won't have it. > > I beg to differ on that point: My bad, I was looking in the wrong part of the eix output. It seems a trip to Barnard Castle is in

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU

2021-09-02 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Thu, 02 Sep 2021, David Haller wrote: >On Thu, 02 Sep 2021, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>Yes it does, but only on the testing version. If you are running stable, >>you won't have it. > >I beg to differ on that point: > >$ cd $(portageq get_repo_path / gentoo) >$ for f in

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU

2021-09-02 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Thu, 02 Sep 2021, Neil Bothwick wrote: >Yes it does, but only on the testing version. If you are running stable, >you won't have it. I beg to differ on that point: $ cd $(portageq get_repo_path / gentoo) $ for f in sys-libs/glibc/glibc-*.ebuild; do \ if grep -q 'KEYW.* amd64'

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU

2021-09-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
Replied to the list. On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:50:37 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > If you wish to manually migrate now, there are a series > of steps described on the wiki (see below), but the outline is: > * unforce the crypt USE flag of sys-libs/glibc and disable it > *

[gentoo-user] SNAFU

2021-09-02 Thread Alan Grimes
Chromium has been a heaping pile of crash these days so I've been running update every few days to try to get a working version. Ok, apparently gcj is not a thing anymore and has broken libidn (iirc),  I got around that with a useflag... As always, Gentoo finds new and more bizare ways to

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU

2021-09-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 10:35:49 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote: > Chromium has been a heaping pile of crash these days so I've been > running update every few days to try to get a working version. > > > Ok, apparently gcj is not a thing anymore and has broken libidn (iirc),  > > I got around that with a

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: TO THE N'TH POWER!

2017-01-29 Thread Daniel Frey
On 01/29/2017 09:29 AM, Alan Grimes wrote: > Mick wrote: >> - You have run the efibootmgr command with the right syntax, options and >> parameters and have run it a second time as 'efibootmgr -v' to verify its >> output shows correctly the path to your gentoo kernel image. > > Can't do this

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: TO THE N'TH POWER!

2017-01-29 Thread Daniel Frey
On 01/29/2017 09:07 AM, Alan Grimes wrote: > Mick wrote: >> On Saturday 28 Jan 2017 20:24:34 Alan Grimes wrote: > > Dudes, sorry, I obviously have a crossed-neuron in my brain and can't > remember MFT versus GPT because they are so conceptually similar, Give > it a rest. Please don't waste more

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: TO THE N'TH POWER!

2017-01-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 12:29:52 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > > - You have run the efibootmgr command with the right syntax, options > > and parameters and have run it a second time as 'efibootmgr -v' to > > verify its output shows correctly the path to your gentoo kernel > > image. > > Can't do

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: TO THE N'TH POWER!

2017-01-29 Thread Alan Grimes
Mick wrote: > - You have run the efibootmgr command with the right syntax, options and > parameters and have run it a second time as 'efibootmgr -v' to verify its > output shows correctly the path to your gentoo kernel image. Can't do this step because of chicken and egg conflict. -- Strange

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: TO THE N'TH POWER!

2017-01-29 Thread Alan Grimes
Mick wrote: > On Saturday 28 Jan 2017 20:24:34 Alan Grimes wrote: Dudes, sorry, I obviously have a crossed-neuron in my brain and can't remember MFT versus GPT because they are so conceptually similar, Give it a rest. Please don't waste more than a single line correcting me. =( I'll be first in

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: TO THE N'TH POWER!

2017-01-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 20:24:34 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 12:11:28 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > > > > It appears to be a 2-stage boot process: > > > > BIOS boot -> Binary of GRUB bootstrap loader. > > You don't have a BIOS with a UEFI system. > > We

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: TO THE N'TH POWER!

2017-01-29 Thread Mick
On Saturday 28 Jan 2017 20:24:34 Alan Grimes wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 12:11:28 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > > > > It appears to be a 2-stage boot process: > > > > BIOS boot -> Binary of GRUB bootstrap loader. > > You don't have a BIOS with a UEFI system. > > We were

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: TO THE N'TH POWER!

2017-01-28 Thread Daniel Frey
On 01/28/2017 05:24 PM, Alan Grimes wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 12:11:28 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: >> >> It appears to be a 2-stage boot process: >> >> BIOS boot -> Binary of GRUB bootstrap loader. >> You don't have a BIOS with a UEFI system. > > We were discussing BIOS

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: TO THE N'TH POWER!

2017-01-28 Thread Alan Grimes
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 12:11:28 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > > It appears to be a 2-stage boot process: > > BIOS boot -> Binary of GRUB bootstrap loader. > You don't have a BIOS with a UEFI system. We were discussing BIOS boot on a MFT partition scheme, which is what I'm using

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: TO THE N'TH POWER!

2017-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 12:11:28 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > >> Device Start End Sectors Size Type > >> /dev/sdc12048264191262144 128M EFI System > >> /dev/sdc2 526336 537233407 536707072 255.9G Linux filesystem > >> /dev/sdc3 264192526335262144 128M BIOS boot

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: TO THE N'TH POWER!

2017-01-28 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Alan Grimes wrote: > > Had another learning experience with respect to how GPT disks work., > system is buttoned up and operating in GPT mode. In old systems, the > boot sectors and bootstrap loaders were kinda consigned to a digital >

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: TO THE N'TH POWER!

2017-01-28 Thread Alan Grimes
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 08:41:44 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > >> Device Start End Sectors Size Type >> /dev/sdc12048264191262144 128M EFI System >> /dev/sdc2 526336 537233407 536707072 255.9G Linux filesystem >> /dev/sdc3 264192526335262144

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: TO THE N'TH POWER!

2017-01-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 08:41:44 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > Device Start End Sectors Size Type > /dev/sdc12048264191262144 128M EFI System > /dev/sdc2 526336 537233407 536707072 255.9G Linux filesystem > /dev/sdc3 264192526335262144 128M BIOS boot You don't

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: TO THE N'TH POWER!

2017-01-27 Thread Alan Grimes
Alan Grimes wrote: [] Had another learning experience with respect to how GPT disks work., system is buttoned up and operating in GPT mode. In old systems, the boot sectors and bootstrap loaders were kinda consigned to a digital pergatory on the drive, now you just have to give it its own 1mb

[gentoo-user] SNAFU: TO THE N'TH POWER!

2017-01-27 Thread Alan Grimes
To make a boot disk in DOS you have two options. Format /s x: and Sys x: Once this is done, the new disk will boot perfectly [period] . So what I did was I deleted my botched UEFI partition, and created two new partitions, each of half-size. I mark ... well.: #33

Re: [gentoo-user] snafu: the update

2017-01-27 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 6:58 PM, Alan Grimes wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> AFAIK, when you load the kernel directly from the EFI firmware, it has >> to have the ".efi" suffix. But that doesn't explain why it would stall >> when loaded from grub... >> >> Somewhat OT: Regarding

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: The plot thickens!

2017-01-26 Thread Alan Grimes
Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On 27/01/17 08:33, Alan Grimes wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:07:03 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: >>> 4. Create MFT partition table. >>> MFT? Isn't that something to do with NTFS? You need a GPT partition table >>> if you want to boot with UEFI.

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: The plot thickens!

2017-01-26 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 27/01/17 08:33, Alan Grimes wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:07:03 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: >> >>> 4. Create MFT partition table. >> MFT? Isn't that something to do with NTFS? You need a GPT partition table >> if you want to boot with UEFI. >> > > yeah, my bad memory,

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: The plot thickens!

2017-01-26 Thread Alan Grimes
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:07:03 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > >> 4. Create MFT partition table. > MFT? Isn't that something to do with NTFS? You need a GPT partition table > if you want to boot with UEFI. > yeah, my bad memory, it was MFT, as offered by gparted. I don't seem to

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: The plot thickens!

2017-01-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:07:03 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > 4. Create MFT partition table. MFT? Isn't that something to do with NTFS? You need a GPT partition table if you want to boot with UEFI. -- Neil Bothwick deja vous - the act of forgetting someone's name /again/ despite being introduced

[gentoo-user] SNAFU: The plot thickens!

2017-01-26 Thread Alan Grimes
My ordeal with grub continues. I tried the bleeding edge GRUB, no change in behavior. I realized that I had an additional source of information that I had been neglecting. The boot fixer thumb drive I had in the back of the mascheen was booting UEFI into a crappy bloating debian-ish thingy.

Re: [gentoo-user] snafu: the update

2017-01-25 Thread Alan Grimes
Tom H wrote: > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Alan Grimes wrote: >> The linux kernel stalls stone cold dead in either direct from firmware >> or pass through grub mode. > AFAIK, when you load the kernel directly from the EFI firmware, it has > to have the ".efi" suffix.

Re: [gentoo-user] snafu: the update

2017-01-25 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Alan Grimes wrote: > > The linux kernel stalls stone cold dead in either direct from firmware > or pass through grub mode. AFAIK, when you load the kernel directly from the EFI firmware, it has to have the ".efi" suffix. But that doesn't

[gentoo-user] snafu: the update

2017-01-25 Thread Alan Grimes
I re-installed grub and now it boots through the grub menu to the point of handing off to the linux kernel. The linux kernel stalls stone cold dead in either direct from firmware or pass through grub mode. So I think Grub is 97.6% exonerated at this point. This is my standard kernel.org pure

[gentoo-user] SNAFU!!!! Boot drive modernization.

2017-01-25 Thread Alan Grimes
After 7 long years, the peace of mind feature on my Velociraptor HD had finally given up the ghost. So I get a new SSD, that's slightly smaller but still a large multiple of what I actually need the drive for. =P To be fully trendy (and finally wanting to put the 1980's to bed) I try to set up