Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 8 June 2020 10:18:30 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 08 Jun 2020 10:12:30 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > @world includes @system. It doesn't necessarily include everything > > > installed on your system though. > > > > Eh? Do you mean we might have things installed other than

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 08 Jun 2020 10:12:30 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > @world includes @system. It doesn't necessarily include everything > > installed on your system though. > > Eh? Do you mean we might have things installed other than via portage? > Otherwise, isn't everything on the system

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 7 June 2020 22:16:39 BST Rich Freeman wrote: > @world includes @system. It doesn't necessarily include everything > installed on your system though. Eh? Do you mean we might have things installed other than via portage? Otherwise, isn't everything on the system represented in either

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread Dale
n952162 wrote: > On 2020-06-07 23:37, Dale wrote: >> J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> >>> You need to add "-1" or "--oneshot". >>> >>> As this has been used, I would definitely expect the world-file to be full >>> of this, causing issues with updates later. >>> >>> Also, by restricting to @system, any

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread n952162
On 2020-06-07 23:37, Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: You need to add "-1" or "--oneshot". As this has been used, I would definitely expect the world-file to be full of this, causing issues with updates later. Also, by restricting to @system, any packages not in @system with a restriction

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote: > > You need to add "-1" or "--oneshot". > > As this has been used, I would definitely expect the world-file to be full of > this, causing issues with updates later. > > Also, by restricting to @system, any packages not in @system with a > restriction on readline V8 will

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 5:07 PM Dale wrote: >> >> Unless you have a really good reason to do so, you shouldn't try to update >> system by itself. It limits emerge and can lead to issues. > He's just following my earlier advice. While what you say is true in > general, the

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 7 June 2020 21:30:19 CEST, Rich Freeman wrote: >On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 2:56 PM n952162 wrote: >> >> >> $ equery list \* | grep readline >> sys-libs/readline-7.0_p5-r1 >> >> But, given your answer about exclusivity/inclusivity in the other >thread, I guess this result is

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread Mark Knecht
So try the same command but use -epv and it will tell you everything it's going to do. If you have a dependency issue it will tell you straight up. On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 2:15 PM n952162 wrote: > On 2020-06-07 23:03, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 1:20 PM n952162 wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 5:07 PM Dale wrote: > > > Unless you have a really good reason to do so, you shouldn't try to update > system by itself. It limits emerge and can lead to issues. He's just following my earlier advice. While what you say is true in general, the problem is that he is

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 3:38 PM n952162 wrote: > > I don't understand this - what can I add to @system to get @system to update? > > Ah, you mean that since readline is used by ~@system packages ... I'll try > @world ... oh, that's not inclusive of @system, perhaps. @world includes @system. It

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread n952162
On 2020-06-07 23:03, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 1:20 PM n952162 mailto:n952...@web.de>> wrote: > I don't understand this - what can I add to @system to get @system to update? emerge -e @system    --emptytree, -e   Reinstalls target atoms and their entire

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread Dale
n952162 wrote: > On 2020-06-07 21:30, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 2:56 PM n952162 wrote: >> >>> The emerge that I used was this: >>> >>> emerge -auDv --verbose-conflicts --changed-use --keep-going --with-bdeps=y >>> --changed-deps --backtrack=100 @system >> Yeah, you might have

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 1:20 PM n952162 wrote: > I don't understand this - what can I add to @system to get @system to update? emerge -e @system

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread n952162
On 2020-06-07 21:30, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 2:56 PM n952162 wrote: $ equery list \* | grep readline sys-libs/readline-7.0_p5-r1 But, given your answer about exclusivity/inclusivity in the other thread, I guess this result is questionable... This is just

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread n952162
On 2020-06-07 21:30, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 2:56 PM n952162 wrote: The emerge that I used was this: emerge -auDv --verbose-conflicts --changed-use --keep-going --with-bdeps=y --changed-deps --backtrack=100 @system Yeah, you might have to include the other packages that

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 2:56 PM n952162 wrote: > > > $ equery list \* | grep readline > sys-libs/readline-7.0_p5-r1 > > But, given your answer about exclusivity/inclusivity in the other thread, I > guess this result is questionable... This is just showing what version you have

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread n952162
On 2020-06-07 20:33, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 2:16 PM n952162 wrote: When I try to update @system after --sync-ing, I get a conflict on readline. Bash wants readline 8.0 but the profile specifies readline 7.0 and lots of other packages are linked against 7.0. Just

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 2:16 PM n952162 wrote: > > When I try to update @system after --sync-ing, I get a conflict on readline. > > Bash wants readline 8.0 but the profile specifies readline 7.0 and lots of > other packages are linked against 7.0. Just rebuilding those packages > probably won't

[gentoo-user] What's the best way to force a particular version of a dependency

2020-06-07 Thread n952162
When I try to update @system after --sync-ing, I get a conflict on /readline/. /Bash/ wants /readline/ 8.0 but the profile specifies /readline/ 7.0 and lots of other packages are linked against 7.0.  Just rebuilding those packages probably won't help, because they don't know about /readline/