Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:28:41 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: It's an obvious question, but... are they freakin' insane? VMWare is one of the few really good pieces of general-market software that supports Linux. Why on earth would the linux community cut them off? Harumph! Mind

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-24 Thread Sebastian Wiesner
Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Thursday 24 July 2008, 03:26:26 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I run gentoo x86 stable, so that I usually avoid this sort of thing. This kernel, however,

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-24 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:53 AM, Sebastian Wiesner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You were ever able to built a kernel without warnings?! You certainly must have some magic in your hands ;) Kernel developers always had a dismissive attitude towards compiler warnings, non-serious warnings are rarely

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:53 AM, Sebastian Wiesner However, may I point out that a great deal of the kernel is in support of minorities of users? Especially in the device drivers. There may not be another machine on the planet with the

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-24 Thread Vladimir G. Ivanovic
Kevin, It's fruitless to argue with someone who uses crude swearwords --- a sign that they more interested in impact than in reason. --- Vladimir on 07/24/2008 09:06 AM Volker Armin Hemmann said the following: it is not about minorities. It is about closed source crap. Nobody can fix that

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2008, Vladimir G. Ivanovic wrote: Kevin, It's fruitless to argue with someone who uses crude swearwords --- a sign that they more interested in impact than in reason. and it is fruitless to argue that the kernel should wait for closed source stuff of questionable

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:06:29 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: it is not about minorities. It is about closed source crap. Nobody can fix that execpt vmware. Why should people suffer because vmware is slow? This was fixed in the vmware overlay ages ago. You could blame the devs, although I

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-24 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:06:29 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: it is not about minorities. It is about closed source crap. Nobody can fix that execpt vmware. Why should people suffer because vmware is slow? This was

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:52:31 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: All that being said, the compilation completes, and I can boot it. I don't know the cause, but I have been unable to get vmware-server running on it, and I'm going back to the previous kernel for that reason.

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-23 Thread Dale
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I run gentoo x86 stable, so that I usually avoid this sort of thing. This kernel, however, looks balky to me, because it's reporting warnings and other oddities during compilation. I don't like warnings at any time, and with the kernel's make wrappers cleaning up the

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-23 Thread Sebastian Wiesner
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Wednesday 23 July 2008, 19:09:45 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I run gentoo x86 stable, so that I usually avoid this sort of thing. This kernel, however, looks balky to me, because it's reporting warnings and other oddities during compilation. I don't like warnings at

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-23 Thread Dale
Sebastian Wiesner wrote: Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Wednesday 23 July 2008, 19:09:45 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I run gentoo x86 stable, so that I usually avoid this sort of thing. This kernel, however, looks balky to me, because it's reporting warnings and other oddities during

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I run gentoo x86 stable, so that I usually avoid this sort of thing. This kernel, however, looks balky to me, because it's reporting warnings and other oddities during compilation. I don't like warnings at any time, and with the kernel's make

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, Dale wrote: I used make oldconfig and my old kernel config as a starting point. Did you happen to do the same? Maybe it should be done from scratch? Some conflict or something? Thoughts? you turned on some stupid feature. Like a bunch of debug options that

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-23 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, Dale wrote: I used make oldconfig and my old kernel config as a starting point. Did you happen to do the same? Maybe it should be done from scratch? Some conflict or something? Thoughts? you turned on some stupid feature.

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-23 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I run gentoo x86 stable, so that I usually avoid this sort of thing. This kernel, however, looks balky to me, because it's reporting warnings and other oddities

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?

2008-07-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I run gentoo x86 stable, so that I usually avoid this sort of thing. This kernel, however, looks balky to