Am Wed, 5 Aug 2015 12:37:30 +0200
schrieb Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
On 05/08/2015 09:00, Marc Joliet wrote:
Am Tue, 04 Aug 2015 23:13:20 -0400
schrieb Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net:
Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-04 21:36 (UTC+0100):
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:32:51
On 04/08/2015 20:30, Felix Miata wrote:
Grant Edwards composed on 2015-08-04 17:20 (UTC):
Felix Miata wrote:
That's right, May 2011, my first and only Gentoo installation, 32 bit on an
old Athlon, which means no sse2, and kernel 2.6.37. It coexists in multiboot
on one HD with 12
On 05/08/2015 05:28, Felix Miata wrote:
If we (gentoo) had a simple installation semantic, this sort of problem
would most likely disappear; so the wider community could delve into other
technical support issues.. YMMV.
I get the feeling Gentoo isn't a right choice for people who need a
Am Tue, 04 Aug 2015 23:13:20 -0400
schrieb Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net:
Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-04 21:36 (UTC+0100):
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:32:51 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I've yet to figure out how to get a list of
all installed packages akin to 'rpm -qa | sort', so I
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 05/08/2015 05:28, Felix Miata wrote:
If we (gentoo) had a simple installation semantic, this sort of problem
would most likely disappear; so the wider community could delve into other
technical support issues.. YMMV.
I get the feeling Gentoo isn't a right choice
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 08:33:00 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
And then you will repeat the whole thing to deal with udev and friends.
And then for OpenRC.
And then the whole split /usr thing
Bash will cause much pain. Oh, I almost forgot, there was that bash
completion mess too.
For an idea of
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 23:28:25 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
The Gentoo instructions look competent enough to do well for most of the
people it's designed for, if only they aren't trying to do as currently
I, avoid systemd.
Eh? The Handbook is for an OpenRC install, it's the systemd users that
have
On Wednesday 05 August 2015 08:48:21 Alan McKinnon wrote:
It should be more obvious now why simple installation semantic is a
total oxymoron in a Gentoo setting.
I don't even understand what it means. What is a semantic? As far as I know,
semantic is an adjective, relating to meaning,
2015-08-04 21:28 GMT-06:00 Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net:
I really should have followed up on my installation 50 months ago at *least*
3 years ago. I have no recollection what stopped me, unless it was a naive
choice to put it on one of my oldest slowest machines with nv11 instead of
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 10:05:48 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
[OT]
Much confusion is caused by people continually inventing new ways of
using words with insufficient thought to how they would fit into the
existing structure. Like momentarily for example, which in the
current American usage is
On 05/08/2015 09:00, Marc Joliet wrote:
Am Tue, 04 Aug 2015 23:13:20 -0400
schrieb Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net:
Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-04 21:36 (UTC+0100):
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:32:51 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I've yet to figure out how to get a list of
all installed
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 12:37:30 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
-bash: qlist: command not found
emerge qlist fails (with unable to parse profile...unsupported EAPI
'5')
It is part of app-portage/portage-utils.
Which he will have to install first :-)
If the distfile is still available
Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-04 21:36 (UTC+0100):
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:32:51 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I've yet to figure out how to get a list of
all installed packages akin to 'rpm -qa | sort', so I really don't know
what my starting configuration is.
qlist -ICv
-bash: qlist:
James composed on 2015-08-04 21:07 (UTC):
Interesting choice:: how do you like your choices, Felix?
Choices are a double edged sword. The more you have, the more power you have,
but the harder to choose, especially while overwhelmed by the unfamiliar.
Your later provided ungrading old
Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-04 18:44 (UTC+0100):
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 13:12:42 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
6-# emerge portage
This produced a longish warning:
!!! /etc/make.profile is not a symlink and will probably prevent most
merges. !!! It should point into a profile within
On Tue, 4 Aug 2015 23:48:16 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
2-clone the existing partition to a larger one to be the upgrade
target 3-boot the target
4-note that there exists no /etc/portage/
How did you clone it? It appears parts are missing.
In the old days make.conf and
Felix Miata wrote:
That's right, May 2011, my first and only Gentoo installation, 32 bit on an
old Athlon, which means no sse2, and kernel 2.6.37. It coexists in multiboot
on one HD with 12 installations of Fedora and openSUSE. I'd like to upgrade
it rather than installing fresh, if it's
Grant Edwards composed on 2015-08-04 17:20 (UTC):
Felix Miata wrote:
That's right, May 2011, my first and only Gentoo installation, 32 bit on an
old Athlon, which means no sse2, and kernel 2.6.37. It coexists in multiboot
on one HD with 12 installations of Fedora and openSUSE. I'd like to
That's right, May 2011, my first and only Gentoo installation, 32 bit on an
old Athlon, which means no sse2, and kernel 2.6.37. It coexists in multiboot
on one HD with 12 installations of Fedora and openSUSE. I'd like to upgrade
it rather than installing fresh, if it's doable. My initial steps
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 13:12:42 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
2-clone the existing partition to a larger one to be the upgrade target
3-boot the target
4-note that there exists no /etc/portage/
How did you clone it? It appears parts are missing.
5-# emerge --sync
which warned I need to
50 months?!?!??! that's like a fresh install Jeez, have you even
finished the burn-in testing on that?
My machine is more than 60 months old and I only recently completed the
burn-in test, (the mobo failed, wasn't giving me the PCI-E channels I
needed).
My home directory is about eleven
On 08/04/2015 11:30 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
Grant Edwards composed on 2015-08-04 17:20 (UTC):
and faster. A fresh install will take a couple hours. An upgrade will
take somewhere between a couple days and a couple weeks.
Seriously, more than a day?
Oh sure, it's possible.
In late 2013
Am 04.08.2015 um 20:30 schrieb Felix Miata:
1-I just find upgrade processes more enjoyable than inital installations and
their follow-up tedium getting from defaults back to the way I like things to
work.
been there, done that ... several times.
Loads of work but also a big chunk of learning
Dale composed on 2015-08-04 12:41 (UTC-0500):
First, you are going to have a interesting few days, at least. It would
be faster and easier to start fresh. Honestly. If you just have to or
want to for a learning experience, cool.
See if eselect exists. If it does, try this:
eselect
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:32:51 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I've yet to figure out how to get a list of
all installed packages akin to 'rpm -qa | sort', so I really don't know
what my starting configuration is.
qlist -ICv
--
Neil Bothwick
Top Oxymorons Number 36: Alone together
On Tue, 4 Aug 2015, Daniel Frey wrote:
I found that I had to do it in little pieces at a time and portage got
in my way constantly. I wish there was a setting to just forcibly
compile a package and then manually deal with breakage afterward with
something like revdep-rebuild, rather than
On Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:44:47 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 13:12:42 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
2-clone the existing partition to a larger one to be the upgrade target
3-boot the target
4-note that there exists no /etc/portage/
How did you clone it? It appears parts are
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