Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread thegeezer
On 06/09/2014 10:01 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 09/06/2014 21:15, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Montag, 9. Juni 2014, 13:28:03 schrieb Alan Mackenzie: Hi, Gentoo! The latest episode of my months long update saga. [snip] This all seems crazy. Keeping Gentoo up to date shouldn't be this

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/06/2014 12:36, thegeezer wrote: +1 to just letting portage work with world. What I have found useful when trying to do what Alan is attempting, is to select a chunk of packages at a time (like say all of kde, then a bunch of daemons). If I get a block, drop it and try the next

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:35:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I know about --keep-going, I don't like it much. What's not to like? Do you like a long emerge list aborting as soon as you turn your back because of a missing patch file in a minor package? -- Neil Bothwick How is it that we put man

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/06/2014 16:27, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:35:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I know about --keep-going, I don't like it much. What's not to like? Do you like a long emerge list aborting as soon as you turn your back because of a missing patch file in a minor package?

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 19:06:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: What's not to like? Do you like a long emerge list aborting as soon as you turn your back because of a missing patch file in a minor package? Yes, exactly. For two reasons: 1. In the vast majority of cases, there's something to

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/06/2014 20:29, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 19:06:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: What's not to like? Do you like a long emerge list aborting as soon as you turn your back because of a missing patch file in a minor package? Yes, exactly. For two reasons: 1. In the vast

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:33:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm an old fart, set in my ways, I found something long ago that works for me with unsufficient pain to provoke a change. I clearly have a lower pain threshold than you :( So I ain't changin' :-) Good thing it's an option then ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 11:28:03 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: emerge -p --color y util-linux | less -F , and get the following on my screen: [ebuild U ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.24.1-r2 [2.22.2] USE=bash-completion%* pam%* python%* -caps% -cytune% -fdformat% -tty-helpers%

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 9. Juni 2014, 13:28:03 schrieb Alan Mackenzie: Hi, Gentoo! The latest episode of my months long update saga. [snip] This all seems crazy. Keeping Gentoo up to date shouldn't be this difficult. You are making it artificially complicated by doing it piecewise. Whenever you

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/06/2014 21:15, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Montag, 9. Juni 2014, 13:28:03 schrieb Alan Mackenzie: Hi, Gentoo! The latest episode of my months long update saga. [snip] This all seems crazy. Keeping Gentoo up to date shouldn't be this difficult. You are making it artificially

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Andreas. On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 09:15:48PM +0200, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Montag, 9. Juni 2014, 13:28:03 schrieb Alan Mackenzie: Hi, Gentoo! The latest episode of my months long update saga. [snip] This all seems crazy. Keeping Gentoo up to date shouldn't be this

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi Alan, first of all, which portage version are you using? Even if you are otherwise always running a stable system, in this case it might be useful to update portage (only) to ~arch. The errors that you are seeing are in an area of the dependency resolver that people are actively working

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 21:04:30 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: You are making it artificially complicated by doing it piecewise. Whenever you try to update only part of your tree, emerge cannot do changes anywhere else, which means that other stuff can block your intended changes. I tried