Re: [gentoo-user] Uh Oh!! Made the contents of my directory unreadable

2010-02-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:35:37 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: It's not, if it were reset the second and fourth characters would be the same :P Smartass :-) You're too kind :) You owe me a year's subscription from your employer for that wise-crack. Postage paid by sender, naturally. This

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 11 February 2010 13:50:54 Walter

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 00:13:23 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: One thing I haven't found so far is what to put in make.conf to get the

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 11

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 00:13:23 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: One thing I haven't found so far is what

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Dale wrote: SNIP This is how I understand it.  If you use buildpkg with emerge, you get the original configs from the source tarball.  If you use quickpkg, then you get the

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:39:48 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Volker is. I am not sure I am and I'm not sure that Neil was talking about quickpkg which is what I am using so far. The command quickpkg --include-configs says it includes the configs. That's what I thought we (you and I Alan) were

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:43:36 +0100, Christian Apeltauer wrote: If you do not want a piece of software, why should you install it? Installing and not using it instead of not installing it at all, is the wrong way and (to my opinion) it is defintely not the Gentoo way. Clearly it is not

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Dale wrote: SNIP This is how I understand it. If you use buildpkg with emerge, you get the

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:39:48 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Volker is. I am not sure I am and I'm not sure that Neil was talking about quickpkg which is what I am using so far. The command quickpkg --include-configs says it

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Dale wrote:

[gentoo-user] Re: How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread walt
On 02/11/2010 03:03 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: ... And don't start with sockets. That will result in a nightmare. dbus is a clean solution to a huge problem. Apps have to talk to each other. The only way to keep it sane is a standardized IPC daemon like dbus. Aha! This is a question

[gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread walt
On 02/11/2010 01:35 PM, Zeerak Waseem wrote: It just seems silly that if you want to use the newest version of kate, kmail etc. that semantic-desktop is forced upon you, when you're not interested in having the entire DE. By the authority vested in me by My-Wife-the-Windows-User, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Zeerak Waseem
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:04:38 +0100, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/11/2010 01:35 PM, Zeerak Waseem wrote: It just seems silly that if you want to use the newest version of kate, kmail etc. that semantic-desktop is forced upon you, when you're not interested in having the entire

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 04:24:33 walt wrote: On 02/11/2010 03:03 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: ... And don't start with sockets. That will result in a nightmare. dbus is a clean solution to a huge problem. Apps have to talk to each other. The only way to keep it sane is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Uh Oh!! Made the contents of my directory unreadable

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 02:02:27 Neil Bothwick wrote: You owe me a year's subscription from your employer for that wise-crack. Postage paid by sender, naturally. This year, I seem to be working mainly for the Inland Revenue. I'll give them your address :P How odd. I do the same with

Re: [gentoo-user] Keyword for dev-java/sun-j2ee

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 01:51:40 Dale wrote: By the way, just installed KDE 4.4 and I still can't open a file with Dolphin as root. You are not supposed to do that. Dolphin runs as you. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 01:49:18 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Christian Apeltauer wrote: Am Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:18:42 + schrieb Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:03:15 -0600, Roy Wright wrote: IMO, mandatory semantic-desktop

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 01:52:37 Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:31:26 +0100, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 01:10:58 Zeerak Waseem wrote: But honestly, I don't have a solution to the problem, what I can however say is that my

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Zeerak Waseem
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:53:20 +0100, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 01:52:37 Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:31:26 +0100, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 01:10:58 Zeerak Waseem wrote: But honestly,

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Graham Murray
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes: so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser or mail app that they are offline? Why does the app need to know? Browsers normally have an online/offline menu selection and if you try to browse to a site when

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Graham Murray wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes: so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser or mail app that they are offline? Why does the app need to know? others already posted examples why this is

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