Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Digital signatures

2012-01-20 Thread Mick
On Friday 20 Jan 2012 07:57:38 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 01:22:50PM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: On 1/19/2012 11:32 AM, Chris Walters wrote: On 1/19/2012 11:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: While on this

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-20 Thread Chris Walters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 1/20/2012 02:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 01:22:50PM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: On 1/19/2012 11:32 AM, Chris Walters wrote: This is a test. Enigmail has been trying to use a revoked and expired key to sign my

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-20 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Thursday, January 19, 2012, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have mine set up to sign them all. I did a couple to see if it worked or not. Whenever I sign a message, it asks for the password. It is quite a long password and I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-20 Thread Dale
Hilco Wijbenga wrote: On 19 January 2012 19:25, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hilco Wijbenga wrote: On 19 January 2012 17:38, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hilco Wijbenga wrote: On 19 January 2012 16:05, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Well, the USE flag got changed. Isn't that what

[gentoo-user] after world update cxfe will not emerge

2012-01-20 Thread covici
Hi. I just did a world update using unstable gentoo and my preserved-rebuild wants me to emerge cxfe, but cxfe will not emerge. I get the following: post.c: In function ?pplugin_parse_and_load?: post.c:106:5: warning: implicit declaration of function ?xine_strdupa? post.c:131:6: warning:

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:07:18 -0600, Dale wrote: Sometimes my problem is it is like shooting skeet, it's a moving target. Sometimes it moves pretty darn fast too. Zac adds it faster than I can keep up. I wish they would announce new stuff when it get released, both unstable and stable.

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-20 Thread Dale
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:07:18 -0600, Dale wrote: Sometimes my problem is it is like shooting skeet, it's a moving target. Sometimes it moves pretty darn fast too. Zac adds it faster than I can keep up. I wish they would

Re: [gentoo-user] Good 'layman' tutorial on IPv4 IPv6?

2012-01-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-01-19 5:32 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 19 Jan 2012 15:48:32 Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I have a reasonable grasp of how to use IP addresses etc with IPv4, but every time I start rading about

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-01-19 5:42 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: There's no known way to decrypt a mail like that without the single private key needed (this works exactly like https traffic to your bank). I feel very confident saying no known way as cracking that puzzle has been the Holy

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 04:08:57 -0600, Dale wrote: Sometimes my problem is it is like shooting skeet, it's a moving target. Sometimes it moves pretty darn fast too. Zac adds it faster than I can keep up. I wish they would announce new stuff when it get released, both unstable and stable.

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-20 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 04:08:57 -0600, Dale wrote: Sometimes my problem is it is like shooting skeet, it's a moving target. Sometimes it moves pretty darn fast too. Zac adds it faster than I can keep up. I wish they would announce new stuff when it get released, both

Re: [gentoo-user] Good 'layman' tutorial on IPv4 IPv6?

2012-01-20 Thread covici
Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-01-19 5:32 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 19 Jan 2012 15:48:32 Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I have a reasonable grasp of how to use IP addresses

[gentoo-user] For those who complain

2012-01-20 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
For those who complain about default portage behavior: It changes constantly. If you can't accept the bleeding edge behavior, you're probably using the wrong distro. There are always going to be changes. Some you don't like, some you say oh gosh, finally!. For the latter, I cheer, for former, I

[gentoo-user] Re: Link-local ipv6 address in /etc/hosts? in browsers?

2012-01-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-01-19, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Do you really want that much broadcast and wide multicast (think DNS-SD and NTP in multicast mode) traffic on the same Ethernet segment? That bit I don't understand. ??It's no worse that ARP, and we seem to live with that quite easily.

[gentoo-user] [OT] IPv6 usage patterns (static, DHCPv6, RA, mDNS, ?)

2012-01-20 Thread Grant Edwards
As you may have gathered from my posts yesterday, I'm working on adding IPv6 to an embedded device (actually a family of serial device servers). I've got the device working fine with link-local addressing, but I'm not sure what the next phase should be. While some of our customers are asking for

Re: [gentoo-user] Good 'layman' tutorial on IPv4 IPv6?

2012-01-20 Thread Chris Frederick
On 01/20/12 05:07, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2012-01-19 5:32 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 19 Jan 2012 15:48:32 Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I have a reasonable grasp of how to use IP addresses etc with

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-20 Thread »Q«
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:25:31 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Most man pages are Greek. My Greek is not real good. Maybe you've got LINGUAS set incorrectly. ;) Quoting the relevant bit again, the --changed-use option does not trigger reinstallation when flags that the user has not

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-20 Thread »Q«
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:06:22 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: I suspect this is specific to the KDE ebuilds (or eclass). changed-use should only skip an ebuild with changed flags if re-emerging would produce exactly the same code as before, this may not be the case. For example,

[gentoo-user] Strange outbound requests

2012-01-20 Thread Grant
My firewall is blocking periodic outbound connections to port 3680 on a Rackspace IP. How can I find out more about what's going on? Maybe which program is generating the connection requests? - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-20 Thread Dale
»Q« wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:25:31 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Most man pages are Greek. My Greek is not real good. Maybe you've got LINGUAS set incorrectly. ;) Quoting the relevant bit again, the --changed-use option does not trigger reinstallation when flags

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-20 Thread »Q«
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:53:32 -0600 »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote: I'm not filing a --changed-use bug or posting in the dev list because of Medico's IMO rather prickly attitude about this kind of thing. He says in this case: The fact is, the user is not being forced to rebuild anything. They

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange outbound requests

2012-01-20 Thread Stroller
On 20 January 2012, at 18:34, Grant wrote: My firewall is blocking periodic outbound connections to port 3680 on a Rackspace IP. How can I find out more about what's going on? Maybe which program is generating the connection requests? Uh, a packet sniffer? I have an old laptop here that I

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange outbound requests

2012-01-20 Thread Grant
My firewall is blocking periodic outbound connections to port 3680 on a Rackspace IP.  How can I find out more about what's going on?  Maybe which program is generating the connection requests? Uh, a packet sniffer? I have an old laptop here that I have a second (cardbus) network card in.

[gentoo-user] Re: after world update cxfe will not emerge

2012-01-20 Thread walt
On 01/20/2012 01:15 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I just did a world update using unstable gentoo and my preserved-rebuild wants me to emerge cxfe, but cxfe will not emerge. I get the following: /var/tmp/portage/media-video/cxfe-0.9.2/work/cxfe-0.9.2/cxfe.c:1018: undefined reference

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange outbound requests

2012-01-20 Thread Mick
On Friday 20 Jan 2012 19:18:59 Grant wrote: My firewall is blocking periodic outbound connections to port 3680 on a Rackspace IP. How can I find out more about what's going on? Maybe which program is generating the connection requests? Uh, a packet sniffer? I have an old laptop

Re: [gentoo-user] Good 'layman' tutorial on IPv4 IPv6?

2012-01-20 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-01-19 5:32 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 19 Jan 2012 15:48:32 Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org  wrote: I have a reasonable

Re: [gentoo-user] Good 'layman' tutorial on IPv4 IPv6?

2012-01-20 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-01-19 5:32 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 19 Jan 2012 15:48:32 Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org  wrote: I have a reasonable

Re: [gentoo-user] For those who complain

2012-01-20 Thread Dale
Albert W. Hopkins wrote: For those who complain about default portage behavior: It changes constantly. If you can't accept the bleeding edge behavior, you're probably using the wrong distro. There are always going to be changes. Some you don't like, some you say oh gosh, finally!. For the

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-20 Thread Dale
Hilco Wijbenga wrote: Hi all, In man emerge I read: --changed-use Tells emerge to include installed packages where USE flags have changed since installation. This option also implies the --selective option. Unlike --newuse, the --changed-use option does not trigger reinstallation

[gentoo-user] Re: For those who complain

2012-01-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 01/20/2012 10:51 PM, Dale wrote: Albert W. Hopkins wrote: [...] And sometimes those people are finding problems. Please don't feed the troll.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: For those who complain

2012-01-20 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 01/20/2012 10:51 PM, Dale wrote: Albert W. Hopkins wrote: [...] And sometimes those people are finding problems. Please don't feed the troll. Since it was fixed, I took his food bowl away. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ...

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange outbound requests

2012-01-20 Thread Grant
My firewall is blocking periodic outbound connections to port 3680 on a Rackspace IP.  How can I find out more about what's going on?  Maybe which program is generating the connection requests? Uh, a packet sniffer? I have an old laptop here that I have a second (cardbus) network

[gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Grant
I have an old Gentoo system that hasn't been updated or used at all in at least 2 years. It's remote but I have SSH access. I've updated portage but I thought I should check with you guys before I plow ahead with emerge -DuN world. It won't be used for anything until I bring it up to speed and

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I have an old Gentoo system that hasn't been updated or used at all in at least 2 years.  It's remote but I have SSH access.  I've updated portage but I thought I should check with you guys before I plow ahead with emerge -DuN

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:37:06 -0800, Grant wrote: I have an old Gentoo system that hasn't been updated or used at all in at least 2 years. It's remote but I have SSH access. I've updated portage but I thought I should check with you guys before I plow ahead with emerge -DuN world. It won't

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Grant
I have an old Gentoo system that hasn't been updated or used at all in at least 2 years.  It's remote but I have SSH access.  I've updated portage but I thought I should check with you guys before I plow ahead with emerge -DuN world.  It won't be used for anything until I bring it up to speed

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread EJ Vincent
On 1/20/2012 5:37 PM, Grant wrote: I have an old Gentoo system that hasn't been updated or used at all in at least 2 years. It's remote but I have SSH access. I've updated portage but I thought I should check with you guys before I plow ahead with emerge -DuN world. It won't be used for

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange outbound requests

2012-01-20 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: My firewall is blocking periodic outbound connections to port 3680 on a Rackspace IP.  How can I find out more about what's going on?  Maybe which program is generating the connection requests? Uh, a packet sniffer? I

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21.01.2012 00:09, Grant wrote: I have an old Gentoo system that hasn't been updated or used at all in at least 2 years. It's remote but I have SSH access. I've updated portage but I thought I should check with you guys before I plow ahead with

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange outbound requests

2012-01-20 Thread Grant
My firewall is blocking periodic outbound connections to port 3680 on a Rackspace IP.  How can I find out more about what's going on?  Maybe which program is generating the connection requests? Uh, a packet sniffer? I have an old laptop here that I have a second (cardbus) network

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange outbound requests

2012-01-20 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: If the machine is running linux, then 'watch lsof -n|grep TCP|grep 3680' as root is a sloppy but effective way to find it. There's probably some way to set up a firewall rule on the host in question that logs out the user

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I have an old Gentoo system that hasn't been updated or used at all in at least 2 years.  It's remote but I have SSH access.  I've updated portage but I thought I should check with you guys before I plow ahead with emerge -DuN

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Grant
Weird, it looks like portage didn't update to the latest version. emerging it again seems to want to update it again.  I get this: # emerge -pv portage [snip] [ebuild  NS   ] dev-lang/python-2.7.2-r3 [2.5.2-r7] USE=gdbm ncurses readline ssl threads (wide-unicode) xml -berkdb -build -doc

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Philip Webb
120120 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:37:06 -0800, Grant wrote: I have an old Gentoo system that hasn't been updated or used at all in at least 2 years. It's remote but I have SSH access. Take small steps. emerge -pv @system first and be prepared to emerge packages a few at a

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange outbound requests

2012-01-20 Thread Mick
On Friday 20 Jan 2012 23:34:12 Grant wrote: My firewall is blocking periodic outbound connections to port 3680 on a Rackspace IP. How can I find out more about what's going on? Maybe which program is generating the connection requests? Uh, a packet sniffer? I have an old

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Grant
OK, so the install is old and portage has dependencies, right? emerge -pvDuN portage will get you closer. However this is probably best covered using Neil's suggestion of emerge -pvDuN @system I can't even get started: # emerge -avDuN system [snip] !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Mick
On Friday 20 Jan 2012 23:53:32 Philip Webb wrote: 120120 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:37:06 -0800, Grant wrote: I have an old Gentoo system that hasn't been updated or used at all in at least 2 years. It's remote but I have SSH access. Take small steps. emerge -pv

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/20/12 18:58, Grant wrote: OK, so the install is old and portage has dependencies, right? emerge -pvDuN portage will get you closer. However this is probably best covered using Neil's suggestion of emerge -pvDuN @system I can't even get started: Do you have some idea of what

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange outbound requests

2012-01-20 Thread Grant
If the machine is running linux, then 'watch lsof -n|grep TCP|grep 3680' as root is a sloppy but effective way to find it. There's probably some way to set up a firewall rule on the host in question that logs out the user and (possibly) PID of the connection, but I don't know. lsof -i is

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21.01.2012 00:52, Grant wrote: Weird, it looks like portage didn't update to the latest version. emerging it again seems to want to update it again. I get this: # emerge -pv portage [snip] [ebuild NS ] dev-lang/python-2.7.2-r3

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Grant
You could do: emerge =dev-lang/python-2.6.7-r2 You should disable threads if it doesn't work (there is something related to it in the portage ebuild). After that, switch to python 2.6 via eselect and try to update portage. If I read the ebuilds correctly, that should work. I get: #

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange outbound requests

2012-01-20 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21.01.2012 01:12, Grant wrote: If the machine is running linux, then 'watch lsof -n|grep TCP|grep 3680' as root is a sloppy but effective way to find it. There's probably some way to set up a firewall rule on the host in question that logs out

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange outbound requests

2012-01-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/20/2012 07:12 PM, Grant wrote: If the machine is running linux, then 'watch lsof -n|grep TCP|grep 3680' as root is a sloppy but effective way to find it. There's probably some way to set up a firewall rule on the host in question that logs out the user and (possibly) PID of the connection,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: For those who complain

2012-01-20 Thread Érico Porto
Gentoo is a rainbow with no end and no pot of gold. I will write that one down.. In the mean while, if you just want something that you install quickly on a small system it is really good - assuming you will update your system only 6 to 6 months ... Érico V. Porto On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:31

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange outbound requests

2012-01-20 Thread Grant
If the machine is running linux, then 'watch lsof -n|grep TCP|grep 3680' as root is a sloppy but effective way to find it. There's probably some way to set up a firewall rule on the host in question that logs out the user and (possibly) PID of the connection, but I don't know. lsof -i is

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange outbound requests

2012-01-20 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: My firewall is blocking periodic outbound connections to port 3680 on a Rackspace IP.  How can I find out more about what's going on?  Maybe which program is generating the connection requests? Uh, a packet sniffer? I

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange outbound requests

2012-01-20 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21.01.2012 02:39, Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: My firewall is blocking periodic outbound connections to port 3680 on a Rackspace IP. How can I find out more about what's going on?

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:58:36 -0800, Grant wrote: # emerge -avDuN system [snip] !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-auth/pambase-20081028 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r1 (masked by: EAPI 4)

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Grant
# emerge -avDuN system [snip] !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-auth/pambase-20081028 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r1 (masked by: EAPI 4) - sys-auth/pambase-20101024 (masked by: EAPI 3)

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/20/2012 09:42 PM, Grant wrote: # emerge -avDuN system [snip] !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-auth/pambase-20081028 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r1 (masked by: EAPI 4) -

Re: [gentoo-user] Good 'layman' tutorial on IPv4 IPv6?

2012-01-20 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:45:08AM -0600, Chris Frederick wrote If you still want private addresses, IPv6 has unique local addresses (fc00::/7 range, http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/ula/ has a reg form to help assign a /48 to you). If it's a unique ***LOCAL*** address, then why is it a

[gentoo-user] System shuts off on boot-up

2012-01-20 Thread BRM
I am working on trying to get my AMD64 system back online. I recently rebuilt it (from scratch) after a very bad case of being out of date and build issues as a result (for numerous reasons). However, after I started trying to get X configured (Xorg) with the nouveau driver (I think I ran the

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Grant
# emerge -avDuN system [snip] !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-auth/pambase-20081028 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r1 (masked by: EAPI 4) - sys-auth/pambase-20101024 (masked by: EAPI 3)

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-20 Thread Dale
Grant wrote: # emerge -avDuN system [snip] !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-auth/pambase-20081028 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r1 (masked by: EAPI 4) - sys-auth/pambase-20101024 (masked