Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/plymouth could not work

2012-04-05 Thread 张春江
On 2012-04-05 01:29:36,Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:

 Something is wrong. There is no dracut messages in your dmesg output,
 so either you are not using the rd.debug command line (which,
 according to your logs, you *are* using), or you are not using a
 dracut-created initramfs, or the initramfs is somehow corrupted.

I used
# dracut -H -f
to create my initramfs. I don't know why there is no dracut message in 
my dmesg output.

 Can I see your grub.cfg file, as it is please? Also, it seems that the
 problem is OpenRC not creating the /run tmpfs early on during the boot
 process:

 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409921

 Until that gets fixed, recent versions of plymouth cannot work with
 OpenRC. Maybe you could try an old version?

 Regards.

Also, can I see your fstab? It seems you use quite the complex setup
for your partitions.

The latest version of plymouth is 0.9_pre20111013-r1.
I installed sys-boot/plymouth-0.8.3-r5 but it still couldn't work, just like 
v0.9_pre.
There is no ebuild for other versions.
Then I tried to install by tarball, but version 0.8.1 and 0.8.2 have a make 
error:
fatal error: drm/drm.h: No such file or directory, but I have already 
installed 
x11-libs/libdrm and all the other drm related applications are masked.
Version 0.7.2 have an another make error.

This is my grub.conf:
default 0
timeout 5
#splashimage=(hd0,13)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title Gentoo Linux
root (hd0,13)
kernel /boot/kernel-3.2.1-gentoo-r2 root=/dev/sda10 splash quiet 
video=radeon:1366x768
initrd /boot/initramfs-3.2.1-gentoo-r2.img

title Win7
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

This is my /etc/fstab:
# fs  mountpointtype  opts  
dump/pass
# NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts.
/dev/sda14  /boot   ext4defaults,noatime
1 2
/dev/sda10  /   ext4noatime 
0 1
/dev/sda11  /usrext4noatime 
0 0
/dev/sda12  /varext4noatime 
0 0
/dev/sda13  /home   ext4noatime 
0 0
/dev/sda9   noneswapsw  
0 0
/dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  autonoauto,user 
0 0
/dev/sda1   /media/win7 ntfs-3g rw,users,umask=000  
0 0
/dev/sda5   /media/musicntfs-3g rw,users,umask=000  
0 0
/dev/sda6   /media/animation ntfs-3grw,users,umask=000  
0 0
/dev/sda7   /media/data ntfs-3g rw,users,umask=000  
0 0
/dev/sda8   /media/videontfs-3g rw,users,umask=000  
0 0

Thank you very much for your help!



Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING dev-libs/icu-49.1 is BAD

2012-04-05 Thread Daniel Troeder
On 04.04.2012 20:12, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 Another scare.  No emacs, no apache, gnome in trouble ...
 
 don't install icu-49.1
 
 I was going to file a bug but I see that there are a few stating that
 some things fail with 49.1 so I don't know that my adding to the list
 will help.
 
 To see the list just ask for
 
 ALL icu
 
 I now have to reinstall everything that was installed after icu, or at
 least try them to see if they fail.
 
 allan
 
Why can't ebuilds like icu be made like openssl or openldap where the
libs are not replaced, but old libs stay and a text is displayed to use
redep-rebuild and afterwards rm the old libs?

That way software doesn't suddenly brake until you reemerge half your
desktop/servers (only to reemerge everything again the next day, because
that lib gets suddenly masked).

I like the behavior of openldap and openssl, I'd like to have that for
gfx-libs that brake the desktop (like icu) too.

Please, please do it dear gentoo devs :)

Daniel


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[gentoo-user] How to display all dependencies?

2012-04-05 Thread Helmut Jarausch

Hi,

is there a command which shows all dependencies of a package?

Unfortunately, qdepends doesn't do the job, e.g.

qdepends kde-base/kde-meta shows no dependencies at all while there are  
more than 200 of them.


Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut.



Re: [gentoo-user] How to display all dependencies?

2012-04-05 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
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On 05.04.2012 12:13, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,
 
 is there a command which shows all dependencies of a package?
 
 Unfortunately, qdepends doesn't do the job, e.g.
 
 qdepends kde-base/kde-meta shows no dependencies at all while there
 are more than 200 of them.
 
 Many thanks for a hint, Helmut.
 

Hi,

equery can do it for you:

equery depgraph package

short is:

equery g package

The default settings are a depth of 1, showing only direct
dependencies. You can customise it by using --depth, e.g.:

equery g --depth=4 kde-meta

equery is part of gentoolkit

With kind regards,

Hinnerk
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to display all dependencies?

2012-04-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 12:13:05 +0200
Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:

 Hi,
 
 is there a command which shows all dependencies of a package?
 
 Unfortunately, qdepends doesn't do the job, e.g.
 
 qdepends kde-base/kde-meta shows no dependencies at all while there
 are more than 200 of them.
 
 Many thanks for a hint,
 Helmut.
 

qdepends displays DEPENDs but kde-meta defines RDEPENDS, and all of
those are themselves just meta packages.

kde-meta RDEPENDS on kde-*-meta and should show up with qdepends -r

Be careful how deep you do this search, anything you come up with will
probably not do the search you want. Rather search the deps of each
individual kde meta package.

You can't just do a simple deep recursive search, that will find the
deps of a package, find the deps of those packages, and the deps of
those by the time this ends, the command will list probably all of
@system and @world



-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING dev-libs/icu-49.1 is BAD

2012-04-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:36:54 +0200, Daniel Troeder wrote:

 Why can't ebuilds like icu be made like openssl or openldap where the
 libs are not replaced, but old libs stay and a text is displayed to use
 redep-rebuild and afterwards rm the old libs?

They are, the old libs stay around until you emerge @preserved-rebuild... 
and then everything breaks.

 That way software doesn't suddenly brake until you reemerge half your
 desktop/servers (only to reemerge everything again the next day, because
 that lib gets suddenly masked).

In an ideal world, broken software wouldn't be released at all, but ~arch
is called testing for a reason and we have now tested icu-49.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

WinErr 00A: Promotional literature overflow - Mailbox full


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Re[4]: [gentoo-user] Nginx with PHP-FPM

2012-04-05 Thread Stefan Schmiedl
Silvio,

Thursday, April 5, 2012, 2:11:55 AM, you wrote:

S thanks i have compile php and nginx with ur flags. But the result is same.
S Nginx like not PHP. The website is blank. Not give out phpinfo();

If you have compiled nginx and php with these flags, things should work,
if you tell both components how to communicate with each other.

What is the output of 

 curl -I http://localhost/info.php

and of

 curl http://localhost/info.php

assuming that you still have the file info.php that showed up in the logs
quoted in your original post.

Also:
   ps ax | grep nginx
   ps ax | grep php-fpm
   netstat -lpnt | grep :80
   netstat -lpnt | grep :9000

S I dont know what should do now, when self the original sourcecode want not
S run, thats not normal. 

Calm down, wind some watch, and start to think about which points are accessible
for debugging this conundrum.

s.




Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING dev-libs/icu-49.1 is BAD

2012-04-05 Thread Daniel Troeder
On 05.04.2012 14:51, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:36:54 +0200, Daniel Troeder wrote:
 
 Why can't ebuilds like icu be made like openssl or openldap where the
 libs are not replaced, but old libs stay and a text is displayed to use
 redep-rebuild and afterwards rm the old libs?
 
 They are, the old libs stay around until you emerge @preserved-rebuild... 
 and then everything breaks.
Revisited my aliases and saw that that's exactly what I did... *blushes*



[gentoo-user] Re: MTS player

2012-04-05 Thread James
Joost Roeleveld joost at antarean.org writes:


 This sounds like a problem I had with a USB harddrive.
 Cause: Bad connection in USB-port (dust?)
 Solution: Use vacuumcleaner to clear USB-port ;)

I've tried several ports, the same cable works fine with 
several other different usb devices, so it's most likely
related to 

exFAT...

Any other ideas?
anyone?


James






Re: [gentoo-user] lvm failed to start

2012-04-05 Thread Dan Johansson
ectrons!
***
On Thursday 05 April 2012 00.36:33 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 18:58:38 +0200, Dan Johansson wrote:
 
  I have a similar thing on my ~x86, but the difference is that I know
  why I get it. I have successfully be able to create an initramfs that
  does a vgscan, vgchange -a y and mounts /usr (which is on LVM). But now
  I (naturally) I get LVM failed to start (and of cause failed to
  mount /usr) when openrc processes the init-scripts.
 
 This is not down to your initramfs, see the previously linked bug.

What do you mean by This is not down to your initramfs?
With the new C:\ concept of udev /usr needs to be mounted before /sbin/init 
is run and as I am using LVM, LVM needs to be started before /sbin/init as well 
- or have I missed something here?

-- 
Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu
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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/plymouth could not work

2012-04-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:47 AM, 张春江 zhangchunjian...@126.com wrote:
 On 2012-04-05 01:29:36,Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:

 Something is wrong. There is no dracut messages in your dmesg output,
 so either you are not using the rd.debug command line (which,
 according to your logs, you *are* using), or you are not using a
 dracut-created initramfs, or the initramfs is somehow corrupted.

 I used
 # dracut -H -f
 to create my initramfs. I don't know why there is no dracut message in
 my dmesg output.

 Can I see your grub.cfg file, as it is please? Also, it seems that the
 problem is OpenRC not creating the /run tmpfs early on during the boot
 process:

 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409921

 Until that gets fixed, recent versions of plymouth cannot work with
 OpenRC. Maybe you could try an old version?

 Regards.

Also, can I see your fstab? It seems you use quite the complex setup
for your partitions.

 The latest version of plymouth is 0.9_pre20111013-r1.
 I installed sys-boot/plymouth-0.8.3-r5 but it still couldn't work, just like 
 v0.9_pre.
 There is no ebuild for other versions.
 Then I tried to install by tarball, but version 0.8.1 and 0.8.2 have a make 
 error:
 fatal error: drm/drm.h: No such file or directory, but I have already 
 installed
 x11-libs/libdrm and all the other drm related applications are masked.
 Version 0.7.2 have an another make error.

 This is my grub.conf:
 default 0
 timeout 5
 #splashimage=(hd0,13)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

 title Gentoo Linux
 root (hd0,13)
 kernel /boot/kernel-3.2.1-gentoo-r2 root=/dev/sda10 splash quiet 
 video=radeon:1366x768
 initrd /boot/initramfs-3.2.1-gentoo-r2.img

 title Win7
 rootnoverify (hd0,0)
 makeactive
 chainloader +1

 This is my /etc/fstab:
 # fs                  mountpoint    type          opts          
 dump/pass
 # NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts.
 /dev/sda14              /boot           ext4            defaults,noatime      
   1 2
 /dev/sda10              /               ext4            noatime               
   0 1
 /dev/sda11              /usr            ext4            noatime               
   0 0
 /dev/sda12              /var            ext4            noatime               
   0 0
 /dev/sda13              /home           ext4            noatime               
   0 0
 /dev/sda9               none            swap            sw                    
   0 0
 /dev/cdrom              /mnt/cdrom      auto            noauto,user           
   0 0
 /dev/sda1               /media/win7     ntfs-3g         rw,users,umask=000    
   0 0
 /dev/sda5               /media/music    ntfs-3g         rw,users,umask=000    
   0 0
 /dev/sda6               /media/animation ntfs-3g        rw,users,umask=000    
   0 0
 /dev/sda7               /media/data     ntfs-3g         rw,users,umask=000    
   0 0
 /dev/sda8               /media/video    ntfs-3g         rw,users,umask=000    
   0 0

 Thank you very much for your help!

I see several problems from your grub and fstab config files:

1. If you have a separate /boot partition, you should have something like

kernel (hd0,14)/kernel-3.2.1-gentoo-r2 root=/dev/sda10 splash quiet
video=radeon:1366x768
initrd (hd0,14)/initramfs-3.2.1-gentoo-r2.img

in your grub.cfg.

2. GRUB cannot read ext4 partitions (GRUB2 can), so you are reading
them as ext3 (I don't know if this can cause any problems). The reason
I started to use GRUB2 was because I wanted to use ext4 for my /.

3. Where is the rd.debug command line? Without it, we can't see
dracut's debug messages.

Delete /boot/initramfs*, and recreate the initramfs again, add the
rd.debug kernel command line in grub.cfg, and reboot again. The dmesg
output should have a lot of lines with dracut:; send that to the
list.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México


Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/plymouth could not work

2012-04-05 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Thursday, April 05, 2012 01:10:46 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:47 AM, 张春江 zhangchunjian...@126.com wrote:
  On 2012-04-05 01:29:36,Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
  Something is wrong. There is no dracut messages in your dmesg output,
  so either you are not using the rd.debug command line (which,
  according to your logs, you *are* using), or you are not using a
  dracut-created initramfs, or the initramfs is somehow corrupted.
  
  I used
  # dracut -H -f
  to create my initramfs. I don't know why there is no dracut message in
  my dmesg output.
  
  Can I see your grub.cfg file, as it is please? Also, it seems that th
 e
  problem is OpenRC not creating the /run tmpfs early on during the boo
 t
  process:
 
  https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409921
 
  Until that gets fixed, recent versions of plymouth cannot work with
  OpenRC. Maybe you could try an old version?
 
  Regards.
 
 Also, can I see your fstab? It seems you use quite the complex setup
 for your partitions.
 
  The latest version of plymouth is 0.9_pre20111013-r1.
  I installed sys-boot/plymouth-0.8.3-r5 but it still couldn't work, just
  like v0.9_pre. There is no ebuild for other versions.
  Then I tried to install by tarball, but version 0.8.1 and 0.8.2 have a
  make error: fatal error: drm/drm.h: No such file or directory, but I
  have already installed x11-libs/libdrm and all the other drm related
  applications are masked. Version 0.7.2 have an another make error.
  
  This is my grub.conf:
  default 0
  timeout 5
  #splashimage=(hd0,13)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
  
  title Gentoo Linux
  root (hd0,13)
  kernel /boot/kernel-3.2.1-gentoo-r2 root=/dev/sda10 splash quiet
  video=radeon:1366x768 initrd /boot/initramfs-3.2.1-gentoo-r2.img
  
  title Win7
  rootnoverify (hd0,0)
  makeactive
  chainloader +1
  
  This is my /etc/fstab:
  # fs  mountpointtype  opts
   dump/pass # NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail
  option to opts. /dev/sda14  /boot   ext4  
   defaults,noatime1 2 /dev/sda10  /  
  ext4noatime 0 1 /dev/sda11
   /usrext4noatime 0 0 /dev/sda12
   /varext4noatime 0
  0 /dev/sda13  /home   ext4noatime  
0 0 /dev/sda9   noneswap  
   sw  0 0 /dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom
   autonoauto,user 0 0 /dev/sda1  
  /media/win7 ntfs-3g rw,users,umask=000  0 0 /dev/sda5  
  /media/musicntfs-3g rw,users,umask=000  0 0
  /dev/sda6   /media/animation ntfs-3g  
   rw,users,umask=000  0 0 /dev/sda7   /media/data
  ntfs-3g rw,users,umask=000  0 0 /dev/sda8  
  /media/videontfs-3g rw,users,umask=000  0 0
  
  Thank you very much for your help!
 
 I see several problems from your grub and fstab config files:
 
 1. If you have a separate /boot partition, you should have something like
 
 kernel (hd0,14)/kernel-3.2.1-gentoo-r2 root=/dev/sda10 splash quiet
 video=radeon:1366x768
 initrd (hd0,14)/initramfs-3.2.1-gentoo-r2.img
 in your grub.cfg.

Grub starts counting at 0, not at 1. So the partition is marked as 
(hd0,13)
The /boot partition has a symlink called boot pointing back to itself.
(hd0,13)/boot = (hd0,13)

When specifying   root (hd0,13)  Grub will default to that partition.

Eg. the grub config matches fstab.

 2. GRUB cannot read ext4 partitions (GRUB2 can), so you are reading
 them as ext3 (I don't know if this can cause any problems). The reason
 I started to use GRUB2 was because I wanted to use ext4 for my /.

I don't think ext4 and ext3 use the same disk layout, eg. I don't think that 
can work.

 3. Where is the rd.debug command line? Without it, we can't see
 dracut's debug messages.
 
 Delete /boot/initramfs*, and recreate the initramfs again, add the
 rd.debug kernel command line in grub.cfg, and reboot again. The dmesg
 output should have a lot of lines with dracut:; send that to the
 list.

Why start with deleting the initramfs?
Why not create a new one with a new name and keep the old one for comparison 
later?

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/plymouth could not work

2012-04-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
 On Thursday, April 05, 2012 01:10:46 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:47 AM, 张春江 zhangchunjian...@126.com wrote:
  On 2012-04-05 01:29:36,Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
 

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com 
wrote:
  Something is wrong. There is no dracut messages in your dmesg output,
  so either you are not using the rd.debug command line (which,
  according to your logs, you *are* using), or you are not using a
  dracut-created initramfs, or the initramfs is somehow corrupted.
 
  I used
  # dracut -H -f
  to create my initramfs. I don't know why there is no dracut message in
  my dmesg output.
 
  Can I see your grub.cfg file, as it is please? Also, it seems that th
 e
  problem is OpenRC not creating the /run tmpfs early on during the boo
 t
  process:
 
  https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409921
 
  Until that gets fixed, recent versions of plymouth cannot work with
  OpenRC. Maybe you could try an old version?
 
  Regards.
 
 Also, can I see your fstab? It seems you use quite the complex setup
 for your partitions.
 
  The latest version of plymouth is 0.9_pre20111013-r1.
  I installed sys-boot/plymouth-0.8.3-r5 but it still couldn't work, just
  like v0.9_pre. There is no ebuild for other versions.
  Then I tried to install by tarball, but version 0.8.1 and 0.8.2 have a
  make error: fatal error: drm/drm.h: No such file or directory, but I
  have already installed x11-libs/libdrm and all the other drm related
  applications are masked. Version 0.7.2 have an another make error.
 
  This is my grub.conf:
  default 0
  timeout 5
  #splashimage=(hd0,13)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
 
  title Gentoo Linux
  root (hd0,13)
  kernel /boot/kernel-3.2.1-gentoo-r2 root=/dev/sda10 splash quiet
  video=radeon:1366x768 initrd /boot/initramfs-3.2.1-gentoo-r2.img
 
  title Win7
  rootnoverify (hd0,0)
  makeactive
  chainloader +1
 
  This is my /etc/fstab:
  # fs                  mountpoint    type          opts
   dump/pass # NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail
  option to opts. /dev/sda14              /boot           ext4
   defaults,noatime        1 2 /dev/sda10              /
  ext4            noatime                 0 1 /dev/sda11
   /usr            ext4            noatime                 0 0 /dev/sda12
               /var            ext4            noatime                 0
  0 /dev/sda13              /home           ext4            noatime
            0 0 /dev/sda9               none            swap
   sw                      0 0 /dev/cdrom              /mnt/cdrom
   auto            noauto,user             0 0 /dev/sda1
  /media/win7     ntfs-3g         rw,users,umask=000      0 0 /dev/sda5
              /media/music    ntfs-3g         rw,users,umask=000      0 0
  /dev/sda6               /media/animation ntfs-3g
   rw,users,umask=000      0 0 /dev/sda7               /media/data
  ntfs-3g         rw,users,umask=000      0 0 /dev/sda8
  /media/video    ntfs-3g         rw,users,umask=000      0 0
 
  Thank you very much for your help!

 I see several problems from your grub and fstab config files:

 1. If you have a separate /boot partition, you should have something like

 kernel (hd0,14)/kernel-3.2.1-gentoo-r2 root=/dev/sda10 splash quiet
 video=radeon:1366x768
 initrd (hd0,14)/initramfs-3.2.1-gentoo-r2.img
 in your grub.cfg.

 Grub starts counting at 0, not at 1. So the partition is marked as
 (hd0,13)
 The /boot partition has a symlink called boot pointing back to itself.
 (hd0,13)/boot = (hd0,13)

 When specifying   root (hd0,13)  Grub will default to that partition.

 Eg. the grub config matches fstab.

You are right about that; I just saw the sd14 on fstab, and thought it
should be the same on grub.

 2. GRUB cannot read ext4 partitions (GRUB2 can), so you are reading
 them as ext3 (I don't know if this can cause any problems). The reason
 I started to use GRUB2 was because I wanted to use ext4 for my /.

 I don't think ext4 and ext3 use the same disk layout, eg. I don't think that
 can work.

ext4 is fully backwards compatible with ext3, obviously; otherwise 张春江
would not be able to boot his system.

 3. Where is the rd.debug command line? Without it, we can't see
 dracut's debug messages.

 Delete /boot/initramfs*, and recreate the initramfs again, add the
 rd.debug kernel command line in grub.cfg, and reboot again. The dmesg
 output should have a lot of lines with dracut:; send that to the
 list.

 Why start with deleting the initramfs?
 Why not create a new one with a new name and keep the old one for comparison
 later?

Since I believed that the /boot partition and dir could differ, I
thought it would be the safest route; now it doesn't really matter.
But anyway, the initramfs is automatically generated by dracut; I
don't see a reason to keep one if it seems to be failing, when I
trivially can create a new one. I delete mine all 

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/plymouth could not work

2012-04-05 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
 On Thursday, April 05, 2012 01:10:46 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:47 AM, 张春江 zhangchunjian...@126.com wrote:
 2. GRUB cannot read ext4 partitions (GRUB2 can), so you are reading
 them as ext3 (I don't know if this can cause any problems). The reason
 I started to use GRUB2 was because I wanted to use ext4 for my /.

 I don't think ext4 and ext3 use the same disk layout, eg. I don't think that
 can work.

 ext4 is fully backwards compatible with ext3, obviously; otherwise 张春江
 would not be able to boot his system.

Not exactly. If you use them, ext4 adds structures and features which
means the filesystem isn't liked by ext3-only code. I don't remember
which these are, I just know I tended to accidentally enable them
while tweaking filesystems with tune2fs.

Just noting this for clarity.

-- 
:wq



[gentoo-user] Encrypted email

2012-04-05 Thread James
Hello,

I use enigmail with thunderbird for linux to
linux email encryption. Is there any free
or easy to install email encryption package
I should recommend to a Windows, (XP-system7)
to exchange email with a gentoo system?


I do not use encryption often and it is always with other 
folks that use linux system. So I'm clueless as to what
I should recommend to a windows user...

Any advice is most welcome...


tia,
James






Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/plymouth could not work

2012-04-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
 On Thursday, April 05, 2012 01:10:46 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:47 AM, 张春江 zhangchunjian...@126.com wrote:
 2. GRUB cannot read ext4 partitions (GRUB2 can), so you are reading
 them as ext3 (I don't know if this can cause any problems). The reason
 I started to use GRUB2 was because I wanted to use ext4 for my /.

 I don't think ext4 and ext3 use the same disk layout, eg. I don't think that
 can work.

 ext4 is fully backwards compatible with ext3, obviously; otherwise 张春江
 would not be able to boot his system.

 Not exactly. If you use them, ext4 adds structures and features which
 means the filesystem isn't liked by ext3-only code. I don't remember
 which these are, I just know I tended to accidentally enable them
 while tweaking filesystems with tune2fs.

tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index

which, again, obviously 张春江 hasn't set, otherwise either he wouldn't
be able to boot his system, or we had seen the warnings in his logs.

Just as long as he doesn't use those new features, ext4 is fully
backwards compatible with ext3.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted email

2012-04-05 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:07 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I use enigmail with thunderbird for linux to
 linux email encryption. Is there any free
 or easy to install email encryption package
 I should recommend to a Windows, (XP-system7)
 to exchange email with a gentoo system?


 I do not use encryption often and it is always with other
 folks that use linux system. So I'm clueless as to what
 I should recommend to a windows user...

 Any advice is most welcome...

Thunderbird+Enigma+GPG works on Windows.



-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted email

2012-04-05 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:07 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I use enigmail with thunderbird for linux to
 linux email encryption. Is there any free
 or easy to install email encryption package
 I should recommend to a Windows, (XP-system7)
 to exchange email with a gentoo system?


 I do not use encryption often and it is always with other
 folks that use linux system. So I'm clueless as to what
 I should recommend to a windows user...

 Any advice is most welcome...

http://www.gpg4win.org/



Re: [gentoo-user] lvm failed to start

2012-04-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:59:42 +0200, Dan Johansson wrote:

   I have a similar thing on my ~x86, but the difference is that I know
   why I get it. I have successfully be able to create an initramfs
   that does a vgscan, vgchange -a y and mounts /usr (which is on
   LVM). But now I (naturally) I get LVM failed to start (and of
   cause failed to mount /usr) when openrc processes the
   init-scripts.  
  
  This is not down to your initramfs, see the previously linked bug.  
 
 What do you mean by This is not down to your initramfs?
 With the new C:\ concept of udev /usr needs to be mounted
 before /sbin/init is run and as I am using LVM, LVM needs to be started
 before /sbin/init as well - or have I missed something here?

You are getting this error from openrc, which means the initramfs
has already done its stuff and passed control to init on the real root
partition. At this point /usr is already mounted, it is the openrc
startup of LVM that is failing, because it is trying to write a lockfile
to a read-only filesystem, which would be the case even if you were not
using an initramfs.

The problem is that it is trying to write to /var/lock, which is on / at
this point, rather than /run/lock, which is on a writeable tmpfs.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Bus: (n.) a connector you plug money into, something like a slot machine.


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Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING dev-libs/icu-49.1 is BAD

2012-04-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:28:45 +0200, Daniel Troeder wrote:

  Why can't ebuilds like icu be made like openssl or openldap where the
  libs are not replaced, but old libs stay and a text is displayed to
  use redep-rebuild and afterwards rm the old libs?  
  
  They are, the old libs stay around until you emerge
  @preserved-rebuild... and then everything breaks.  

 Revisited my aliases and saw that that's exactly what I did... *blushes*

Remember this is Gentoo, it may tell you the command to run to break your
system, but it leaves you to create the mess yourself - none of the
namby-pamby automated wreckage you get with the brown distro!


-- 
Neil Bothwick

WinErr 011: Window open - Do not look outside


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