On 20/08/2013 06:00, jo...@antarean.org wrote:
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Mon, August 19, 2013 12:55, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:17:06 +0100, Stroller wrote:
Here's a short, very in-comprehensive
On 20/08/2013 07:41, J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Tue, August 20, 2013 00:33, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:51:38 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I'm also lucky in that when I managed to foist all the oracle with java
installers off onto some other team of luckless suckers, I was left
On 20/08/2013 07:38, J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Mon, August 19, 2013 22:51, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 19/08/2013 22:32, jo...@antarean.org wrote:
X11, well that's another story and probably way off topic. It was
designed for hardware and architectures that haven't existed for 20+
years. Almost all
This is actually a portage question. How can I install udisks-2 in a
way that will fix this problem? I'm confused by how to handle the
slotting behavior.
I think the issue here is that we are not understanding what the
problem is. It happens with an application in particular, or with a
On 08/19/2013 04:55:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
Hi,
what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a
system
booting with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd ?
(I am building the initramsfs
On Tue, August 20, 2013 07:58, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 20/08/2013 07:41, J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Tue, August 20, 2013 00:33, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:51:38 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I'm also lucky in that when I managed to foist all the oracle with
java
installers off
On 20/08/2013 08:44, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
On 08/19/2013 04:55:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
Hi,
what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a
system
booting with
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
On 08/19/2013 04:55:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
Hi,
what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a
On Tue, August 20, 2013 07:55, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 20/08/2013 06:00, jo...@antarean.org wrote:
I also still remember.
Not going to mention it now. But will give a hint.
What is the name of the computer that said: I'm sorry Dale, I can't let
you do that.?
bwahahahaha :-)
Yes, we all
On Tue, August 20, 2013 08:06, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 20/08/2013 07:38, J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Mon, August 19, 2013 22:51, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 19/08/2013 22:32, jo...@antarean.org wrote:
X11, well that's another story and probably way off topic. It was
designed for hardware and
On 08/20/2013 08:54:26 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
On 08/19/2013 04:55:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
Hi,
what
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:12:30 -0500, Dale wrote:
I to have / on a traditional partition, ext4, and /boot on a small ext2
partition. Everything else is on LVM. I don't want a init thingy
either. I had nightmares with that thing when I used Mandrake years
ago. I can't recall the name of that
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 08:54:25 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
2001 was a good move and a good book too (just finished both again as
it turns out). 2010 doesn't quite match up though...
The book and movie were done at the same time, if I remember correctly.
There's also a book about how the
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 07:44:41 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
The kernel build system can also build the initramfs if you give it
the location of the config file. That way the initramfs is built for
each kernel, using the currently installed versions of the various
tools.
Yes, it's a
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 07:41:12 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
And those adding screen/tmux into the mix can become truly
unbearable...
When working remotely on a console, I always use screen. Been bitten too
often by dodgy links that it is a sane safety feature.
Same here. My .zshrc starts
On 2013-08-19 10:22 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote:
Why can't you make it work separately after 205? Because 205 is
a MAJOR VERSION BUMP on an actively developed program.
205 is a major version bump over ... 204?
Surely you jest?
On 2013-08-20 2:54 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
Unless you want to learn the ins and outs of using an initramfs (and
having a lot of fun and failed boots in the process), I highly
recommend using Dracut. It does everything for you.
What about a previous posters comment that
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 06:57:02 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
Unless you want to learn the ins and outs of using an initramfs (and
having a lot of fun and failed boots in the process), I highly
recommend using Dracut. It does everything for you.
What about a previous posters comment that they
On Tue, August 20, 2013 12:03, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 07:44:41 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
The kernel build system can also build the initramfs if you give it
the location of the config file. That way the initramfs is built for
each kernel, using the currently installed
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:10:26 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
So, how do/can you *guarantee* that nothing ever gets out of sync?
You could add a custom postinst function to /etc/portage that would
check whether any of the files included in your initramfs are newer than
the initramfs/kernel
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:10:21 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
Not really, because make is intelligent enough to no bother
recompiling anything for which the source has not changed.
True, but why recompile the kernel just to redo the initramfs?
As mentioned, I don't update/recompile the kernel
On Tue, August 20, 2013 12:51, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-08-19 10:22 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote:
Why can't you make it work separately after 205? Because 205 is
a MAJOR VERSION BUMP on an actively developed program.
205 is a major version bump over ... 204?
Surely you
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:12:30 -0500, Dale wrote:
I to have / on a traditional partition, ext4, and /boot on a small ext2
partition. Everything else is on LVM. I don't want a init thingy
either. I had nightmares with that thing when I used Mandrake years
ago. I can't
On 20/08/2013 11:59, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 08:54:25 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
2001 was a good move and a good book too (just finished both again as
it turns out). 2010 doesn't quite match up though...
The book and movie were done at the same time, if I remember
On 2013-08-20 8:22 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:10:21 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
Not really, because make is intelligent enough to no bother
recompiling anything for which the source has not changed.
True, but why recompile the kernel just to redo the
On 2013-08-19 4:54 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19/08/2013 18:39, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-08-19 9:36 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
For your other question, you don't need an initramfs if your /usr is not
split off and drivers for your fs on / and
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:08:02 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
That depends on your needs. The reason I do it this way is so that the
initramfs is locked to the kernel. Once that kernel boots, it will
always boot because the initramfs cannot be changed. If I make a
change to the initramfs, that's a
On 20/08/2013 16:08, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-08-20 8:22 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:10:21 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
Not really, because make is intelligent enough to no bother
recompiling anything for which the source has not changed.
True, but why
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:08:02 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
The main thing about this whole initramfs thing is, like Dale, I just
don't understand it. I understand grub and grub.conf. I understand
enough about compiling a kernel to be able to get it done and be
reasonably sure
On 20/08/2013 16:08, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-08-19 4:54 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19/08/2013 18:39, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-08-19 9:36 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
For your other question, you don't need an initramfs if your /usr is
not
split
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:37:47 -0500, Dale wrote:
Do you see the pattern, your lack of understanding is not a failing of
the software? This is not a technological point, or even a political
one, it is about being outside of your comfort zone. Using Gentoo is
an exercise in expanding your
Am Tue, 20 Aug 2013 01:19:23 +0200
schrieb Marc A. Kastner li...@mkasu.org:
I used Linux on a couple of different MacBooks. Usually I had the best
experience not using rEFInd as an intermediate layer, but as the EFI
boot loader loading the kernel file directly. My setup is based on the
meino.cramer at gmx.de writes:
I tried to emerge 7zip natively on a Beaglebone black.
Which CPU is a ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l) with the
features swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp thumbee neon vfpv3 tls.
gcc-copnfig -l
armv7a-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi-4.6.3
Hello Meino,
You'll find the
Hi List,
The other day my LAN server had an upgrade to PHP, from 5.4.17 to 5.5. Next
time apache restarted, it couldn't because it was looking for
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp.5.so. The library seemed to be in place, but
in fact it was a broken symlink to
For a multitude of reasons, I'd like to get rid of skype. I've heard several
people mention jitsi, but was surprised to find that it's not in the portage
tree.
Is jitsi being actively maintained in an overlay somewhere? Are there plans to
put jitsi in the main tree?
Are there other other
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013, at 05:03 PM, Marc Joliet wrote:
I tried using an EFI stub kernel, but the firmware does not seem to pick
it
up. I suspect I will have to try blessing it again, but after rebooting
into
the OS X 10.7 DVD yet again, it didn't find the SSD *again*. So I will
get to
work
James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com [13-08-20 17:20]:
meino.cramer at gmx.de writes:
I tried to emerge 7zip natively on a Beaglebone black.
Which CPU is a ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l) with the
features swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp thumbee neon vfpv3 tls.
gcc-copnfig -l
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On 08/20/13 19:12, Randy Westlund wrote:
For a multitude of reasons, I'd like to get rid of skype.
Fun fact.
When I installed Syser (mustdie kernel debugger), Skype began to
complain about it.
- --
Stop talking and start compiling.
Linux user
On Tuesday 20 Aug 2013 16:10:59 Peter Humphrey wrote:
Hi List,
The other day my LAN server had an upgrade to PHP, from 5.4.17 to 5.5. Next
time apache restarted, it couldn't because it was looking for
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp.5.so. The library seemed to be in place,
but in fact it
Does anyone of you host music on a mythtv/gentoo-server?
I'd like to be able to stream music/mp3s via upnp (for example to listen
to stuff via android apps) but I only see the videos and recordings when
I browse the server. No music.
Didn't get much help from the mythtv wiki or their ml so I
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:37:47 -0500, Dale wrote:
Do you see the pattern, your lack of understanding is not a failing of
the software? This is not a technological point, or even a political
one, it is about being outside of your comfort zone. Using Gentoo is
an exercise in
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:16:31 -0500, Dale wrote:
You missed my whole point. You can't claim it is because it is new and
outside my comfort zone because even tho grub2 was new to me, it was not
outside my comfort zone. Grub2 is very little like the old grub. It is
just plain outright new
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 01:54:26AM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote
No, the kernel has a mini filesystem (doesn't matter which directory
structure has inside), and it executes the init script (or binary
program) in the root of the initramfs. This init program/script is the
responsible for
On Tuesday 20 August 2013 11:12:32 Randy Westlund wrote:
For a multitude of reasons, I'd like to get rid of skype. I've heard
several people mention jitsi, but was surprised to find that it's not in
the portage tree.
Is jitsi being actively maintained in an overlay somewhere? Are there
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 01:54:26AM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote
No, the kernel has a mini filesystem (doesn't matter which directory
structure has inside), and it executes the init script (or binary
program) in the
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
On 08/19/2013 04:55:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
Hi,
what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a
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On 08/20/13 19:12, Randy Westlund wrote:
For a multitude of reasons, I'd like to get rid of skype. I've
heard several people mention jitsi, but was surprised to find that
it's not in the portage tree.
Is jitsi being actively maintained in an
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