Re: [gentoo-user] a question about emerge --sync

2014-08-02 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 01.08.2014 16:30, schrieb behrouz khosravi: Hello everybody. I have a little bandwidth problem. I don't want to update my packages very frequently. Is it save to sync my portage not very often, say every month or two, so when I install something I wont be

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about emerge --sync

2014-08-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2014 22:02, behrouz khosravi wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Douglas J Hunley doug.hun...@gmail.com wrote: You seem to be slightly confusing two different things. There is 'emerge --sync' (or emerge-webrsync) which maintains your copy of the portage tree and then there's

Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

2014-08-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2014 22:19, behrouz khosravi wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:58 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Howdy, I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I want to keep around, from removal, via depclean. Well I not a proficient user, but I think that depclean

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2014 21:35, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/08/2014 20:17, James wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: New job, new environment. Existing persons suffer from 5-year-old-with-a-hammer syndrome and assume cron is the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2014 23:02, Martin Vaeth wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: But cron has only one event trigger: wall-clock time. And it's a very blunt weapon. I'm looking for recommendations of alternative schedulers that satisfy real-world business needs that need some other event

Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

2014-08-02 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: You are confusing the distfile with the installed ... Well actually I was thinking that if somebody need the old kernel source he/she can unpack the distfile and perform what he/she wants. Maybe updating the linux

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2014 23:13, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 1 August 2014 19:32:36 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Up-front disclaimer: Mostly [OT] post. But at least I'll test drive it on Gentoo before putting it in production :-) New job, new environment. Existing persons suffer

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2014 23:01, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 1 August 2014 19:22:44 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/08/2014 14:44, Tanstaafl wrote: On 8/1/2014 8:42 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: But I don't drive myself when using my mobile. This is on a bus... Lol...

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 01 August 2014 16:44:11 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I was only offering options. The OP will use whatever he decides to use. All interesting stuff. Personally, I'm not ready to go for systemd, as the openrc system I have works well for me and I understand it (mostly). I settled on an

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 01 August 2014 20:32:54 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 14:07:08 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: I run a couple of chroots on this box to build packages for other boxes on the LAN. So far, I haven't worked out what I should populate /etc/mtab with in each chroot. Is it

Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

2014-08-02 Thread Stroller
On Fri, 1 August 2014, at 5:58 pm, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: ... I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I want to keep around, from removal, via depclean. Other suggestions to keep the kernel sources around ? Just copy the ebuild to your local portage tree and

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-02 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, August 02, 2014 11:33:30 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 01/08/2014 23:13, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 1 August 2014 19:32:36 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Up-front disclaimer: Mostly [OT] post. But at least I'll test drive it on Gentoo before putting it in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-02 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, August 02, 2014 11:18:32 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 01/08/2014 21:35, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/08/2014 20:17, James wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: New job, new environment. Existing persons suffer

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-08-02 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, August 01, 2014 12:26:59 PM Philip Webb wrote: 140731 Walter Dnes wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:47:29AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote When reading pdf files, one expects images, so tiff and jpeg are reasonable flags. One does *NOT* expect audio stuff like phonon. And

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/08/2014 15:31, J. Roeleveld wrote: Depends on the specific requirements. If you want: - time based start of a schedule - dependencies in said schedules and between schedules which can delay the actual start - stop of schedule if error occurs - ability to restart schedule

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-08-02 Thread Stroller
On Sat, 2 August 2014, at 2:35 pm, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: ... Do you still have the bug numbers for this? I have a few machines without any sound support. If I can remove the entire sound system from it, it would save time during the updates. Please, Joost, I beg you, stop

[gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-02 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: Well, we've found 2 projects that at least in part seek to achieve our general goals - chronos and Martin's new project. Why don't we both fool around with them for a bit and get a sense of what it will take to add features etc? Then we can

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: I wouldn't like to be the one who has to write a new installation handbook for systemd-only systems! :) We'll need to rewrote the

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about emerge --sync

2014-08-02 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 02.08.2014 09:17, schrieb Dale: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 01.08.2014 16:30, schrieb behrouz khosravi: Hello everybody. I have a little bandwidth problem. I don't want to update my packages very frequently. Is it save to sync my portage not very often, say every month or two, so when

[gentoo-user] sctp is not found

2014-08-02 Thread Byungchan An
Hello. This is Byungchan An. When modprobe for sctp, my gentoo mahine complained it cannot be found. Is there anyone who knows how to install sctp from my previous machine? When doing with uname -r, it says 3.10.33 Thanks

Re: [gentoo-user] sctp is not found

2014-08-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/08/2014 22:00, Byungchan An wrote: Hello. This is Byungchan An. When modprobe for sctp, my gentoo mahine complained it cannot be found. Is there anyone who knows how to install sctp from my previous machine? When doing with uname -r, it says 3.10.33 You already know the answer. You

[gentoo-user] how can I execute a bash command afterebuild is over

2014-08-02 Thread covici
OK, here is my problem -- I want to execute a command before and another command after an ebuild. I see how to execute a command before using /etc/portage/env/category/packagename, but I can't figure out to execute something after the ebuild is done. Basically, I need to change the opengl

Re: [gentoo-user] how can I execute a bash command afterebuild is over

2014-08-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/08/2014 23:15, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: OK, here is my problem -- I want to execute a command before and another command after an ebuild. I see how to execute a command before using /etc/portage/env/category/packagename, but I can't figure out to execute something after the ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] how can I execute a bash command afterebuild is over

2014-08-02 Thread covici
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/08/2014 23:15, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: OK, here is my problem -- I want to execute a command before and another command after an ebuild. I see how to execute a command before using /etc/portage/env/category/packagename, but I can't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-08-02 Thread Philip Webb
140802 J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday, August 01, 2014 12:26:59 PM Philip Webb wrote: Not quite (smile) ! -- I ran into this sent bugs to Gentoo + KDE ; the outcome was that I discovered that Phonon doesn't in fact demand that you install the actual sound software : it works to do

Re: [gentoo-user] how can I execute a bash command afterebuild is over

2014-08-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 17:15:51 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: OK, here is my problem -- I want to execute a command before and another command after an ebuild. I see how to execute a command before using /etc/portage/env/category/packagename, but I can't figure out to execute something

Re: [gentoo-user] how can I execute a bash command afterebuild is over

2014-08-02 Thread covici
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 17:15:51 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: OK, here is my problem -- I want to execute a command before and another command after an ebuild. I see how to execute a command before using /etc/portage/env/category/packagename,

[gentoo-user] Re: colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-02 Thread walt
On 08/01/2014 01:52 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: Bus costs me less than 4 euros for a return trip. Car park is 12 euros a day (my employer pays for the car and fuel, so that doesn't enter the equation) http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/parking_joke

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-08-02 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 06:57:17PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote On 01/08/2014 05:16, Walter Dnes wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:47:29AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote how much do you have to install if you deactivate all use flags for okular? well, you still have all of qt... and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-08-02 Thread Philip Webb
140802 Walter Dnes wrote: In Gentoo, *ANY* kde app which runs on the kde infrastructure requires phonon, and one of aqua/gstreamer/vlc, unless you resort to ugly hackery as per http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/276393 So don't blame KDE, blame Gentoo for not handling Phonon