Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Project:Installer

2015-07-25 Thread Bruce Schultz
On 25 July 2015 11:09:36 PM AEST, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: Matthew Marchese maffblas...@gentoo.org writes: Hi all, I see that you've found stager. I'd like you to share your thoughts on what a perfect installer Gentoo could do. The Debian installer is the best one I've seen so far. If

Re: [gentoo-user] Qucik and (not so) dirty WLAN setup

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 04:25:34 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, since the topic WLAN/Wifi is a wide area and I am only a pedestrian (and a not native english speaker too), I want to ask for a keyword or terminus technicus, what I need to search for... Wanted setup: I Wifi connection

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:07:20 -0600, Justin Findlay wrote: Gentoo does not need an 'installer'. We have way too many people not being able to read simple instructions already or spending 5minutes on googlethinking for themselves. Just look at this mailing list. We really don't need more of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:01:20 -0400, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: Gentoo does not need an 'installer'. We have way too many people not being able to read simple instructions already or spending 5minutes on googlethinking for themselves. Just look at this mailing list. We really don't need more

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 19:42:29 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: Heh, if Gentoo cared about distrowatch we'd probably stick Gentoo somewhere in our user agent strings for all our browsers. I look at it maybe once a year at most, and when I do it doesn't count as a Gentoo visitor. IIRC the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Philip Webb
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Gentoo does not need an 'installer'. We have way too many people not being able to read simple instructions already or spend 5 min on Google thinking for themselves. Just look at this mailing list. We really don't need more of them. I'm not sure we do have many

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/07/2015 10:28, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:07:20 -0600, Justin Findlay wrote: Gentoo does not need an 'installer'. We have way too many people not being able to read simple instructions already or spending 5minutes on googlethinking for themselves. Just look at this

Re: [gentoo-user] Qucik and (not so) dirty WLAN setup

2015-07-25 Thread Meino . Cramer
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [15-07-25 09:52]: On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 04:25:34 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, since the topic WLAN/Wifi is a wide area and I am only a pedestrian (and a not native english speaker too), I want to ask for a keyword or terminus technicus, what I need to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 03:12:27 + (UTC), James wrote: I attend a LUG monthly and the only sponsorship it gets is the building space it meets in - and it doesn't have trouble finding them. So many LUGs died in many cities because anyone can download an installer and put buntu or

[gentoo-user] Firefox-31.8.0 build fails on no-multilib PC

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
Any idea how I can fix the errors it mentions below: === creating cache ./config.cache checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu checking target system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu checking build system type...

[gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Meino . Cramer
Hi, I bought a Wifi USB dongle, on which box was stated: Linux cpmpatible, driver available. As it seams, it was an advertising: The driver is a source code archive of the vendor - last updated for kernel ... 2.6.x. lsusb reports: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Jc García
2015-07-25 8:18 GMT-06:00 Jc García jyo.gar...@gmail.com: That said I'm all for an installer graphical and remote (as a previous post said, automation comes handy at times) * I clicked send before I was finished editing.

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing SSD? (Somewhat OT)

2015-07-25 Thread Daniel Frey
On 07/25/2015 05:12 AM, lee wrote: Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com writes: Well, I sure haven't had much luck with SSDs. This will be the third one I've lost. + Buy good hardware. + Never store anything on only a single disk (with very few exceptions). + Do not put swap partitions on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread wraeth
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 10:44:19AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 25/07/2015 10:28, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:07:20 -0600, Justin Findlay wrote: Gentoo does not need an 'installer'. We have way too many people not being able to read simple instructions already or

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Jeremi Piotrowski
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: ...under which name/config option? If I grep through 4.1.3 sources I dont find anything, which is named 'mtu760*' or which contains that... You have the answer here: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [15-07-25 15:12]: Which apparently was

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-25 Thread Daniel Frey
On 07/25/2015 06:09 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Unfortunately, I must start over. After successfully installing linux, I proceeded to install windows. The result was an unbootable system invalid partition table (thank you windows installer). I rebooted the linux installation disk and

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 16:32:19 Daniel Frey wrote: Is Windows writing a hybrid partition table? Maybe use something like parted to check. Dan MSwindows these days installs a separate boot partition. The MSWindows boot manager can be chainloaded from there, but then it needs to be able to

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Meino . Cramer
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [15-07-25 15:12]: On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 12:49:52 Nils Larsson wrote: I've always found USB wifi dongles to be hit-n-miss on linux. But you could try the sources here: https://github.com/porjo/mt7601 Ah! Good find! This is the latest driver:

Re: [gentoo-user] The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Stroller
On Fri, 24 July 2015, at 3:35 pm, J.Rutkowski j...@pancakebungalow.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2015, at 07:56 AM, James wrote: Rich, I'll be practical. Gentoo needs an installer program, like most other distros if you want your rank_n_file users to entice new users. … I absolutely

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Jc García
2015-07-25 2:44 GMT-06:00 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Once a year or so this list gets flooded by a new bunch of folks who spew forth an unending stream of simple questions and can't be bothered to look further than their nose. And these folks never contribute back. I haven't been

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Meino . Cramer
Jeremi Piotrowski jeremi.piotrow...@gmail.com [15-07-25 16:24]: On Sat, 25 Jul 2015, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: ...under which name/config option? If I grep through 4.1.3 sources I dont find anything, which is named 'mtu760*' or which contains that... You have the answer here:

Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED xen hvm USE flag disabled (xen: How to enable a non-existant USE flag? (xen doesn't work))

2015-07-25 Thread Jeremi Piotrowski
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, hw wrote: Hm, I'm not sure what to make of this bug. I switched profile to one that doesn't say 'no-multilib', and the flag became available. However, I could not compile xen-tools with hvm because stub-32.h was missing. FWIW, it is not enough to change the profile to

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 14:09:57 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Fri, Jul 24 2015, Paul Tobias wrote: On 23 Jul 2015 16:18, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Thu, Jul 23 2015, Paul Tobias wrote: On 23 Jul 2015 02:31, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: My new installation is running well, in particular it

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing SSD? (Somewhat OT)

2015-07-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 25 July 2015 08:49:35 Daniel Frey wrote: I'm going to convert vixie-cron and anacron to cronie with the anacron USE set as well, so I can set the MAILFROM var in crontab as when machines email me I can't figure out which machine it came from. That's odd. When vixie-cron is run as

Re: [gentoo-user] Packaging ASL

2015-07-25 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 07:18:58 -0600 Jc García wrote: 2015-07-21 5:41 GMT-06:00 Zeev Pekar zeev.pe...@avtechscientific.com: Dear Gentoo Developers, We have just released the version 0.1.4 of ASL - Advanced Simulation Library http://asl.org.il. May I ask somebody to volunteer to package

Re: [gentoo-user] The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Terry Z.
In my opinion the installer is the last reason people do not use Gentoo. Look at the other distros out there without a graphical installer. One of them is one of the most popular distros out there. Gentoo experiences a difficulty pulling in more users for many reasons. Firstly there is a large

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing SSD? (Somewhat OT)

2015-07-25 Thread Daniel Frey
On 07/25/2015 09:43 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 25 July 2015 08:49:35 Daniel Frey wrote: I'm going to convert vixie-cron and anacron to cronie with the anacron USE set as well, so I can set the MAILFROM var in crontab as when machines email me I can't figure out which machine it

Re: [gentoo-user] The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 17:35:51 Stroller wrote: On Fri, 24 July 2015, at 3:35 pm, J.Rutkowski j...@pancakebungalow.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2015, at 07:56 AM, James wrote: Rich, I'll be practical. Gentoo needs an installer program, like most other distros if you want your rank_n_file

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 12:02:56 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Mick, THAT helps me! I already did download the driver sources...for kernel 2.6.x...ieeekkks! The driver may still work fine with current kernels. I will look for something with an Atheros chipset. I already found some

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Nils Larsson
I've always found USB wifi dongles to be hit-n-miss on linux. But you could try the sources here: https://github.com/porjo/mt7601 lör 25 jul 2015 13:11 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com skrev: On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 12:02:56 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Mick, THAT helps me! I already did

Re: [gentoo-user] Qucik and (not so) dirty WLAN setup

2015-07-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 25 July 2015 11:19:39 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Short second question: Is it possible to limit the devices, which could connect to the access point, to some MACs ? It depends on the device you choose for your access point. Some allow you to filter MACs, others may not. Sorry I

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 10:16:39 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I bought a Wifi USB dongle, on which box was stated: Linux cpmpatible, driver available. As it seams, it was an advertising: The driver is a source code archive of the vendor - last updated for kernel ... 2.6.x. lsusb

Re: [gentoo-user] Qucik and (not so) dirty WLAN setup

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 11:23:39 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 25 July 2015 11:19:39 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Short second question: Is it possible to limit the devices, which could connect to the access point, to some MACs ? It depends on the device you choose for your access

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Meino . Cramer
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [15-07-25 12:32]: On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 10:16:39 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I bought a Wifi USB dongle, on which box was stated: Linux cpmpatible, driver available. As it seams, it was an advertising: The driver is a source code archive of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 12:49:52 Nils Larsson wrote: I've always found USB wifi dongles to be hit-n-miss on linux. But you could try the sources here: https://github.com/porjo/mt7601 Ah! Good find! This is the latest driver: https://github.com/kuba-moo/mt7601u Which apparently was

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-25 Thread gottlieb
On Fri, Jul 24 2015, Paul Tobias wrote: On 23 Jul 2015 16:18, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Thu, Jul 23 2015, Paul Tobias wrote: On 23 Jul 2015 02:31, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: My new installation is running well, in particular it boots fine. However the grub2-mkconfig seems odd. It

Re: [gentoo-user] xen doesn't work

2015-07-25 Thread lee
hydra hydrapo...@gmail.com writes: However, you don't have hvm/qemu enabled so that's why your HVM guests won't start up. Indeed that was the problem. Once I found that out, I finally was able to get it to work. It's quite frustrating when you follow the documentation and yet things

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing SSD? (Somewhat OT)

2015-07-25 Thread lee
Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com writes: Well, I sure haven't had much luck with SSDs. This will be the third one I've lost. + Buy good hardware. + Never store anything on only a single disk (with very few exceptions). + Do not put swap partitions on single disks, either. + Disks always come in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Project:Installer

2015-07-25 Thread lee
Matthew Marchese maffblas...@gentoo.org writes: Hi all, I see that you've found stager. I'd like you to share your thoughts on what a perfect installer Gentoo could do. The Debian installer is the best one I've seen so far. If you're thinking towards Redhat, the Fedora installer can't even

Re: [gentoo-user] xen: How to enable a non-existant USE flag? (xen doesn't work)

2015-07-25 Thread lee
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:42:00 +0200, hw wrote: Of course, there may be a very good reason why this flag is masked on no-multilib profiles, in which case you will not only see why but get to keep the resulting shrapnel. I would say it is wrong